From: dnomhcir@gmx.com   
      
   D  writes:   
      
   > But do note, that even in the case of the unconscious, the content   
   > comes from the physical world, since we are beings in the physical   
   > world, consisting of matter.   
      
   Yes but you don't know that directly because you don't know what the   
   physical world is directly, no one does. We only have a model of it, and   
   science only has a model of it too. Quarks, bosons, strings, quantum   
   entanglement, it's all pretty weird isn't it? The world we live in is   
   not that one, it's a subjective world where solid objects are really   
   solid, without nutrionos flying through them.   
      
   >   
   > So that doesn't work either unless you're a dualist, which also flies   
   > in the face of physicalism/materialism.   
      
   Perception of the world is a product of evolution.   
      
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