From: nospam@example.net
On Wed, 7 Aug 2024, oldernow wrote:
> On 2024-08-06, D wrote:
>
>> One thing you could conclude is that the YOU MUST ACCEPT
>> behaviour could be due to a bad childhood which left
>> psychological scars and warped the needs the person has. A
>> kind of narcissistic illness.
>
> Seems a reasonable theory/conclusion.
>
>> Then, the interesting question is... what happened to
>> bringing up children in the 70s and 80s so that we today
>> have this annoying trans people? Was there some kind of
>> paradigm shift in bringing up children?
>
> How to identify the factors, their relative impact, and
> then measure them now, then, and before then in order to
> have sufficient data for conclusion?
Very difficult! But if we solve this problem here in alt.philosophy I bet
we could get a Nobel peace prize or two! ;)
Jokes aside, it is not that far away, so at least it is still possible to
round up parents from the different generations and compare their
memories, thoughts and ideas.
> I mean, I can imagine factors like parenting skills
> degradation, social pressure to no longer parent in
> ways that "worked" in the past, increased exposure to
> notions/entertainment in popular culture that favor
> thinking/feeling in "trans ways" (whatever those might
> be). But I suppose there could be environmental factors,
> nutritional factors, "news media lying incessantly"
> factors, etc.
Nutrion? Have there been any big changes in nutrition since then? Most
likely as you say, there are a lot of different factors at play, but it
always is a tantalizing idea to find "the one" factor, and with a mighty
cut of the sword, slay that factor and improve humanity. ;)
Another thing I'm thinking is if the answer is trivial and known by
psychologists since decades back, but, that we have no interest, time or
resources to actually implement those policies.
Or... what _if_ stay at home mothers, with their biologically superior
empathy and caring is the key to raise children with a emotionally secure
base... how would that go down with todays militant feminists and woke
warriors? ;)
I read about a movement called the "Trad wife" movement where the
arguments by some women is that they feel happier and more female assuming
the role of a traditional stay at home mother, caring for the family, and
therefore they reject the prevailing norm of todays society that women
must be like small men. This is enormously provocative for social justive
warriors. I always smile when I encounter those conflicts! =)
> All I know personally is I wasn't at all ready for
> parenting, and had also moved too far from home for
> my parents to have possibly been there with regular
> advice/critique/reminders.
I think that is also an interesting idea. Not everyone should be a parent,
and some people should be actively forbidden from procreating for the sake
of themselves _and_ their potential children. This is also taboo to bring
up in todays society where everyone is entitled to everything. ;)
>> When I think about my own politically incorrect upbringing,
>> it was at times fairly strict, with clear rules, yet,
>> at the same time filled with love and rewards for good
>> behaviour and punishment for bad behaviour.
>
> Same. I'm massively grateful for it.
>
>> Modesty forbids me from saying that I think it was an
>> excellent upbringing that yielded excellent results. ;)
>
> It certainly yielded fine language usage and typing
> skills. But I'd have to hear from your wife on the
> rest.... :-)
You're very kind! However, my wife calls everyone I interact with online
the "freak show" so I doubt she would be willing to make an appearance
here. ;)
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