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|    29 Aug 24 11:55:28    |
      From:              => gemini://siiky.srht.site/philosophy/re-linkrot.gmi        Linkrot and Intellectual Stagnation              > Plato argued (in "Phaedrus", which I apparently haven't       > read yet?!) that writing might not be so great:       >       > SOCRATES: At the Egyptian city of Naucratis, there was a       > famous old god, whose name was Theuth; the bird which is       > called the Ibis is sacred to him, and he was the inventor       > of many arts, such as arithmetic and calculation and       > geometry and astronomy and draughts and dice, but his great       > discovery was the use of letters. Now in those days the       > god Thamus was the king of the whole country of Egypt;       > and he dwelt in that great city of Upper Egypt which       > the Hellenes call Egyptian Thebes, and the god himself       > is called by them Ammon. To him came Theuth and showed       > his inventions, desiring that the other Egyptians might       > be allowed to have the benefit of them; he enumerated       > them, and Thamus enquired about their several uses, and       > praised some of them and censured others, as he approved       > or disapproved of them. It would take a long time to       > repeat all that Thamus said to Theuth in praise or blame       > of the various arts. But when they came to letters, This,       > said Theuth, will make the Egyptians wiser and give them       > better memories; it is a specific both for the memory       > and for the wit. Thamus replied: O most ingenious Theuth,       > the parent or inventor of an art is not always the best       > judge of the utility or inutility of his own inventions       > to the users of them. And in this instance, you who are       > the father of letters, from a paternal love of your own       > children have been led to attribute to them a quality which       > they cannot have; for this discovery of yours will create       > forgetfulness in the learners' souls, because they will not       > use their memories; they will trust to the external written       > characters and not remember of themselves. The specific       > which you have discovered is an aid not to memory, but       > to reminiscence, and you give your disciples not truth,       > but only the semblance of truth; they will be hearers       > of many things and will have learned nothing; they will       > appear to be omniscient and will generally know nothing;       > they will be tiresome company, having the show of wisdom       > without the reality.              --       Oh, for the love of signature silliness....              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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