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   D to oldernow   
   Re: Simple   
   22 Sep 24 22:03:44   
   
   From: nospam@example.net   
      
   On Sun, 22 Sep 2024, oldernow wrote:   
      
   > On 2024-09-21, D  wrote:   
   >   
   >>>> Long time no see! What have you been up to? Productive   
   >>>> things such as living life I hope? =)   
   >>>   
   >>> Quite, even occasionally - not to mention thankfully -   
   >>> rising reproductive grade!   
   >>   
   >> Reproductive? Another child on the way then? ;)   
   >   
   > Well, were it a few biological decades ago....   
      
   Well, I don't know about her lover, but in the bible, wasn't the woman   
   99 years old? ;)   
      
   >>> Soon off to work sound at an outdoor autumn-ish event,   
   >>> including performing with wife and friends later in   
   >>> the day.   
   >>   
   >> It is a nice job to have, that consists of bringing people   
   >> joy! =)   
   >   
   > Super fun. I dreaded it up until it finally starting,   
   > though, which is typical for me. So many things that   
   > can go wrong: life mainstays like "Murphy" and "Entropy"   
   > licking their chops, even as I was about to leverage mine.   
      
   I think it happens to all brilliant musicians, every single time. It is   
   only natural and makes you perform at your best!   
      
   >>> My wife's oldest brother is visiting from Taiwan. He's   
   >>> an above average fellow, and yet I'm not too big a fan   
   >>> of humanity to begin with, so I'm looking forward to   
   >>   
   >> You are a wise man! Even though my wifes family is   
   >> nice, there can be such a thing as "too much of a good   
   >> thing". Especially her mother loves to question my   
   >> decisions, and loves to tell me what to do, especially   
   >> when it comes to new age health care which I loathe.   
   >   
   > Ouch. Rough one. Your patience is admirable, as I know   
   > how quickly my hands ache to form a circle that just so   
   > happens to be about neck size.   
      
   Well, I can't say the thought never crossed my mind. ;)   
      
   >>> his departure, especially since someone in their family   
   >>> taught them all to talk endlessly, which drives me out of   
   >>> my fucking mind. They seem to think they're interesting,   
   >>   
   >> But... if it does drive you out of your mind, it might   
   >> also, drive you into the beyond for a nice guided tour,   
   >> before you return to the mess that we call planet earth? ;)   
   >   
   > It's like you know me, or something! :-)   
      
   I many ways in which to cope in these situatuons. =)   
      
   > He was great on the few songs we let him lead the vocals   
   > of. Better voice than mine, and I'm halfway decent in   
   > that department.   
   >   
   >> I completely understand you! My wifes sister is a good   
   >> talker. And she won't accept any other views, so my wife   
   >> is very happy that I do not speak the language and thus   
   >> won't be able to disrupt the discussion with politically   
   >> incorrect provocations, as easily. ;)   
   >   
   > Familiar. While I've enjoyed talking to him, I have to hold   
   > on tight as he goes on too long, ever mindful his politics   
   > are the opposite of mine, and thus might a meltdown ensue   
   > should I forget - *or* become sufficiently frustrated to   
   > "accidentally" mention The Evil One.... :-)   
      
   This is dangerous. My favourite is climate change. It seems to be the   
   single best way to get europeans jumping up and down and screaming. Much   
   more potent in europe than, say, Trump.   
      
   >>> but most of what I hear is "My God, I'm impressed with   
   >>> mySELF, aren't I?"   
   >>>   
   >>>    
   >>>   
   >>>    
   >>   
   >> So at least, there is a self then? ;)   
   >   
   > There seems to be a notion of a self. As for "is", well,   
   > that too "is" a matter of faith. ;-)   
      
   )   
      
   >>> You do know that you could be a simulated self in the mind   
   >>> of an almighty AI. Bet you didn't think of that!   
   >   
   > All the time, and even regularly reminded of it for often   
   > watching the YouTube channel of American cartoonist Scott   
   > Adams, who is fond of talking of The Simulation.   
      
   Scott Adams is a brilliant man! Sadly he makes too long shows for me. I   
   simply don't have time to listen to all of it, but sometimes, when the   
   spirit moves me, I do listen to bits and pieces.   
      
   >   
   >> You?   
   >   
   >> Same old, same old. Slowly entering the busy season   
   >> at work. Country side is closed down for the season. 1   
   >> mosquito bit me 3 times, and I was not able to take my   
   >> revenge, because he ran away before I woke up and there   
   >> was no point in running after him in a dark room. ;)   
   >   
   > *He*? That doesn't sound very woke to me. :-)   
      
   )   
      
   >> Besides that, the magnum opus continues. Currently reading   
   >> Wittgensteins "On Certainty" in the hope of convincing my   
   >> fellow alt.philosophy brothers that there actually is an   
   >> external world. ;)   
   >   
   > I remember *that* I read some Wittgenstein, but remember   
   > zero gist. How about you delve into your take on some of   
   > the more salient points?   
      
   I wish! He is notoriously difficult to get through. I mean, his book "on   
   certainty" (released post humously, and is just a compilation of   
   numbered notes on the subject and comments on G.E. Moores "here's a   
   hand" which I have referred to in the past) is just 96 pages, and yet I   
   cannot read more than a few pages at a time.   
      
   For instance, one interesting thought about skepticism that he has, is   
   that skepticism always has to be done from the basis of something, and   
   that due to this, ultimate doubt is self refuting, since it doubts   
   itself.   
      
   No you tell me what that means, and if that made you not doubt the   
   external world. ;)   
      
   He also speaks of degrees of knowledge from the observable to the   
   inferred.   
      
   >> When not reading that, I'm reading Robin Hood and realizing   
   >> that the guy was the original libertarian, fighting the   
   >> state and not the rich. ;)   
   >   
   > Ah, the state! As fictional - or is it mythical? - a   
   > "thing" as the selves allegedly comprising "it"! :-)   
   >   
   >> And when not reading that, taking Nietzsches advice and   
   >> reading through the short oxford history of europe. I've   
   >> reached the central middle ages.   
   >   
   > Huh. Interesting to read there's still a Europe. I keep   
   > hearing it's become a mere remote extension of Muslim   
   > countries....   
      
   That is certainly the trend. That is why it is very refreshing to read   
   history, when there still was a europe. ;)   
      
   And also it does remind usu that the spanish managed to drive the   
   arabians out of spain. So who knows? Europeans did drive out the   
   arabians once, about 1000 years ago so maybe it will happen again?   
      
   One can always hope!   
      
   >> So there you go!   
   >   
   > As a John Lennon in modern times might have sang: "whatever   
   > gets you through the post, it's the most.. it's the most". :-)   
      
   Very much true!   
      
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