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   On Mon, 23 Sep 2024, oldernow wrote:   
      
   > On 2024-09-22, D wrote:   
   >   
   >>>> Reproductive? Another child on the way then? ;)   
   >>>   
   >>> Well, were it a few biological decades ago....   
   >>   
   >> Well, I don't know about her lover, but in the bible,   
   >> wasn't the woman 99 years old? ;)   
   >   
   > Well, you know, those biblical people were a lot more   
   > robust than us modern day pussies....   
      
   They were just better in those days, just better!   
      
   >>> Familiar. While I've enjoyed talking to him, I have to hold   
   >>> on tight as he goes on too long, ever mindful his politics   
   >>> are the opposite of mine, and thus might a meltdown ensue   
   >>> should I forget - *or* become sufficiently frustrated to   
   >>> "accidentally" mention The Evil One.... :-)   
   >>   
   >> This is dangerous. My favourite is climate change. It   
   >> seems to be the single best way to get europeans jumping   
   >> up and down and screaming. Much more potent in europe than,   
   >> say, Trump.   
   >   
   > It hit me the other day that leftists are the throng   
   > that favor not reproducing (e.g. abortion), as well as   
   > containing the most who are openly describe themselves as   
   > candidates for offing themselves.   
   >   
   > I'm *almost* (not really..) embarrassed to admit enjoying   
   > the thought of a Trump win possibly constituting a "nudge"   
   > of sorts....   
      
   Ahhh... yes, brings back good memories! I must have written a lot of   
   emails to the mainstream journalists during Trumps last reign,   
   ridiculing them and telling them how happy I was at their hand wringing.   
   Those were the days!   
      
   A Trump win would give me 4 years of excellent schadenfreude! =D Due to   
   his age, we'd better make those 4 years count!   
      
   >> Scott Adams is a brilliant man! Sadly he makes too long   
   >> shows for me. I simply don't have time to listen to all of   
   >> it, but sometimes, when the spirit moves me, I do listen   
   >> to bits and pieces.   
   >   
   > Yeah. We're not with the show every day, but as often as   
   > we can fit him in. It's so refreshing to listen to someone   
   > making an honest effort to be objective.   
      
   Really?!?! Gasp!   
      
   > Not that I'm acquiescing to the notion of there being an   
   > objective reality, mind you.... ;-)   
      
   Ahh... You discovered your mistake! ;)   
      
   >> I wish! He is notoriously difficult to get through. I   
   >> mean, his book "on certainty" (released post humously,   
   >> and is just a compilation of numbered notes on the subject   
   >> and comments on G.E. Moores "here's a hand" which I have   
   >> referred to in the past) is just 96 pages, and yet I cannot   
   >> read more than a few pages at a time.   
   >   
   > Yeah, but you're married, so of *course* your attention is   
   > being perpetually torpedoed.... :-)   
      
   Oh yes... and note that if I ignore it, I'm scolded. But if I dare to   
   come up with a tiny little comment when the wife is studying, fury will   
   be released and it is of course all my fault! ;) Listen, alt.philosophy   
   brothers! Such is the married life!!   
      
   >> For instance, one interesting thought about skepticism that   
   >> he has, is that skepticism always has to be done from the   
   >> basis of something, and that due to this, ultimate doubt   
   >> is self refuting, since it doubts itself.   
   >>   
   >> No you tell me what that means, and if that made you not   
   >> doubt the external world. ;)   
   >   
   > Well, for me any sliver of examining examining (not a   
   > typo), redirecting attention to attention itself, etc.,   
   > "get's me there", so to speak. I consider ex-perience   
   > delusion for it being the result of attention leaving   
   > itself - the only reality - as it were.   
   >   
   > (The "ex-" being hyphenated to emphasize the direction of   
   > attention being "outward".)   
      
   Oh dear. We are here again! I'm afraid you lost me, but maybe that is by   
   design? Maybe your texts are like zen koans? Yet, I'm afraid I have not   
   yet reached enlightenment reading them. ;)   
      
   >> He also speaks of degrees of knowledge from the observable   
   >> to the inferred.   
   >   
   > That sounds rather Kamala Harris to me. :-)   
      
   I'm sure Wittgenstein rotates in his grave right now!   
      
   >>> Huh. Interesting to read there's still a Europe. I keep   
   >>> hearing it's become a mere remote extension of Muslim   
   >>> countries....   
   >>   
   >> That is certainly the trend. That is why it is very   
   >> refreshing to read history, when there still was a   
   >> europe. ;)   
   >>   
   >> And also it does remind usu that the spanish managed to   
   >> drive the arabians out of spain. So who knows? Europeans   
   >> did drive out the arabians once, about 1000 years ago so   
   >> maybe it will happen again?   
   >>   
   >> One can always hope!   
   >   
   > Reminds me of McCartney's wisdom a la "get(ting) back to   
   > where you once belonged"....   
      
   Those beatles guys sure had a song for every occasion!   
      
   > I'm off to a heck of a start of a day. I almost   
   > never remember dreams, but still remember three   
   > mega-nightmares. And it's been three nights since   
   > any THC. Did down a goodly quantity of my cherished   
      
   THC? Not for me. I have madness in the family and I don't want to wake   
   up any demons. But my brain and philosophy usually gives me the highest   
   highs without such aids. ;)   
      
   I do have to say though, that I am enormously curious about psylocybin   
   induced experiences and the effects and potential of them.   
      
   > "Ketel One", though. But I'm suspecting it's mostly a   
   > combination of age, and my wife riding me hard In All The   
   > Ways .   
      
   Wow! Keep at it, and the child will come! ;)   
      
   > I had some kind of an "episode" a few years ago that had   
   > my wife calling for an ambulance, and I had a telltale   
   > aspect of that in the middle of the night, namely awakening   
   > to a mouth full of sore teeth for grinding them. I'm also   
   > constantly smelling something "burning", even though others   
   > smell nothing of the sort. I playfully told my wife it's   
   > because I'm going to hell, and possibly already have a   
   > couple toes descending slowing thereto.... :-)   
   >   
   >    
      
   Brilliant! Applause! =) Which circle are you aiming for? ;)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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