From: oldernow@dev.null   
      
   On 2024-09-23, D  wrote:   
      
   >> It hit me the other day that leftists are the throng   
   >> that favor not reproducing (e.g. abortion), as well as   
   >> containing the most who are openly describe themselves as   
   >> candidates for offing themselves.   
   >>   
   >> I'm *almost* (not really..) embarrassed to admit enjoying   
   >> the thought of a Trump win possibly constituting a "nudge"   
   >> of sorts....   
   >   
   > Ahhh... yes, brings back good memories! I must have written   
   > a lot of emails to the mainstream journalists during Trumps   
   > last reign, ridiculing them and telling them how happy I   
   > was at their hand wringing.  Those were the days!   
      
   I've come to believe there's no arguing with what others   
   have come to believe.   
      
   *But*, that doesn't mean the activity of writing itself   
   isn't or can't be fun. It's when I start yearning for   
   there to be more to it than that that an inner travail   
   might ensue.   
      
   > A Trump win would give me 4 years of excellent   
   > schadenfreude! =D Due to his age, we'd better make those   
   > 4 years count!   
      
      
      
   It's a deal!   
      
   >>> Scott Adams is a brilliant man! Sadly he makes too long   
   >>> shows for me. I simply don't have time to listen to all of   
   >>> it, but sometimes, when the spirit moves me, I do listen   
   >>> to bits and pieces.   
   >>   
   >> Yeah. We're not with the show every day, but as often as   
   >> we can fit him in. It's so refreshing to listen to someone   
   >> making an honest effort to be objective.   
   >   
   > Really?!?! Gasp!   
   >   
   >> Not that I'm acquiescing to the notion of there being an   
   >> objective reality, mind you.... ;-)   
   >   
   > Ahh... You discovered your mistake! ;)   
      
   I... um... well...    
      
   >> Yeah, but you're married, so of *course* your attention is   
   >> being perpetually torpedoed.... :-)   
   >   
   > Oh yes... and note that if I ignore it, I'm scolded. But   
   > if I dare to come up with a tiny little comment when the   
   > wife is studying, fury will be released and it is of course   
   > all my fault! ;) Listen, alt.philosophy brothers! Such is   
   > the married life!!   
      
   Turns out our schadenfreude masters are never more than   
   a cute eyelash away....   
      
   >>> For instance, one interesting thought about skepticism that   
   >>> he has, is that skepticism always has to be done from the   
   >>> basis of something, and that due to this, ultimate doubt   
   >>> is self refuting, since it doubts itself.   
   >>>   
   >>> No you tell me what that means, and if that made you not   
   >>> doubt the external world. ;)   
   >>   
   >> Well, for me any sliver of examining examining (not a   
   >> typo), redirecting attention to attention itself, etc.,   
   >> "get's me there", so to speak. I consider ex-perience   
   >> delusion for it being the result of attention leaving   
   >> itself - the only reality - as it were.   
   >>   
   >> (The "ex-" being hyphenated to emphasize the direction of   
   >> attention being "outward".)   
   >   
   > Oh dear. We are here again! I'm afraid you lost me, but   
   > maybe that is by design? Maybe your texts are like zen   
   > koans? Yet, I'm afraid I have not yet reached enlightenment   
   > reading them. ;)   
      
   No surprise there, as words can, at best, barely indicate   
   a general direction toward the absence of conceptuality   
   that is a hallmark of that big word you just used.   
      
   >>> He also speaks of degrees of knowledge from the observable   
   >>> to the inferred.   
   >>   
   >> That sounds rather Kamala Harris to me. :-)   
   >   
   > I'm sure Wittgenstein rotates in his grave right now!   
      
   It's how we render soil more edible-food-growing ready when   
   worms aren't doing the job to our over-consumptive liking.   
      
   > Those beatles guys sure had a song for every occasion!   
      
   "Turn off your mind, relax, and float downstream!"   
      
   > THC? Not for me. I have madness in the family and I don't   
   > want to wake up any demons. But my brain and philosophy   
   > usually gives me the highest highs without such aids. ;)   
      
   For me it's small doses en route to guaranteed sleep.   
      
   > I do have to say though, that I am enormously curious   
   > about psylocybin induced experiences and the effects and   
   > potential of them.   
      
   They have (well, for me, *had*...) their place in loosening   
   the grip of the notion of being an individual/self/person.   
      
   >> "Ketel One", though. But I'm suspecting it's mostly a   
   >> combination of age, and my wife riding me hard In All The   
   >> Ways .   
   >   
   > Wow! Keep at it, and the child will come! ;)   
      
   There's something to be said for "priority, male".   
      
   (NOTE: not sure if that'll make sense to a non-American)   
      
   >> I had some kind of an "episode" a few years ago that had   
   >> my wife calling for an ambulance, and I had a telltale   
   >> aspect of that in the middle of the night, namely awakening   
   >> to a mouth full of sore teeth for grinding them. I'm also   
   >> constantly smelling something "burning", even though others   
   >> smell nothing of the sort.  I playfully told my wife it's   
   >> because I'm going to hell, and possibly already have a   
   >> couple toes descending slowing thereto.... :-)   
   >>   
   >>    
   >   
   > Brilliant! Applause! =) Which circle are you aiming for? ;)   
      
   My wife's, of course, where the fires burn the hottest in   
   every sense.... ;-)   
      
   --   
   Oh, for the love of signature silliness....   
      
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