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   On Tue, 11 Mar 2025, oldernow wrote:   
      
   > On 2025-03-11, D  wrote:   
   >   
   >>> And you know such to be the truth proven by science   
   >>> via... senses/mind?   
   >>   
   >> You are making the error of mixing up two different uses here.   
   >   
   > The seemingly error exists in the context of what you   
   > believe about varieties of uses. Remove that belief and,   
   > poof, the error is gone.   
      
   I don't understand your sentences.   
      
   >> I did not claim our senses and minds are unreliable and   
   >> should not be trusted. I claimed they are limited, as in   
   >> limited resolution. I cannot physically see an electron,   
   >> therefore they are as far as we are concerned theoretical   
   >> structures that fit within a theoretical framework that   
   >> makes good predictions. Should replacing them with fnords   
   >> result in better predictions we are entitled to include   
   >> fnords instead of electrons.   
   >   
   > That posited somethings make sense in a mind context   
   > of other posited somethings doesn't mean they exists   
   > independently in some separate/external context.   
      
   Could you explain more clearly?   
      
   >> Science works because the world exists, and our senses do   
   >> not deceive us about this.   
   >   
   > Science hasn't even been able to make up its mind about   
   > whether eggs are good/bad for me during my lifetime!   
      
   Science is a method. I think if you put your mind to it, you would be able   
   to tell.   
      
   Science has had enormous successes, and the fact that you do not know if   
   eggs are good for you or not, does not lead us to throwing away the   
   scientific method.   
      
      
      
   >> This is a fact, and I recommend Moores here's a hand proof,   
   >> which is brilliant in its utter simplicity.   
   >   
   > I don't doubt science employs its hand to erect proof....   
   >   
   >> No circularity at all, see above. =) Still waiting for   
   >> the falsification of the world.   
   >   
   > As if mere words could talk you out of your faith! ;-)   
      
   Because no one has succeeded, and it is not possible. That is another   
   interpretation.   
      
   I'll end this now. This makes no sense and is just a waste of time.   
      
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