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   On Wed, 12 Mar 2025, Richmond wrote:   
      
   >>   
   >> I disagree. Probability for me is part of the language of math. I am   
   >> of the opinion that it only has validity, when used for things ehich   
   >> can be verified against evidence, _unless_ we're talking pure   
   >> mathematics, in which case (correct me if I am wrong) you will   
   >> probably talk about proof.   
   >   
   > How likely do you think it is that the moon existed before there was any   
   > life on earth? We have no direct evidence of such. We have to theorise.   
      
   True... but the question is meaningless unless part of a theory that yields   
   predictions and can be tested with empirical evidence. Strictly speaking, we   
   will never know. But we can definitely have an idea about it, but that's all it   
   is. An idea.   
      
   >> From a psychological and pragmatic point of view... go ahead, be my guest!   
   >>   
   >> I must thank you for pointing out my errors in words. I am not a   
   >> native english speaker, and since I stopped doing academic philosophy   
   >> many decades ago, I allow myself the luxury of being a bit   
   >> sloppy. This is of course not good style. I appreciate your   
   >> corrections! =)   
   >   
   > I am not sure what the connection with religion is, but you have raised   
   > it a few times, perhaps you should explain?   
      
   Sure! When multiple world interpretation guys make inferences from equations to   
   phenomena which can never be tested or verified empirically, they leave science   
   behind.   
      
   I have noticed that it opens up for them, the vista of open individualism,   
   immortality, infinite universes which yields infinite probabilities of   
   everything existing.   
      
   For them, these non-verifiable thought experiments, take the place of religion.   
   It gives them the psychological comfort of some kind of immortality.   
      
   Other humans, less wise in the ways of science, read the book, and learn that   
   we   
   are immortal and will go to paradise.   
      
   Same reflex, different theology. Do I make more sense?   
      
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