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   Message 169,874 of 170,348   
   D to oldernow   
   Re: Where am "I"?   
   14 Mar 25 22:49:12   
   
   From: nospam@example.net   
      
   On Thu, 13 Mar 2025, oldernow wrote:   
      
   > On 2025-03-13, vallor  wrote:   
   >   
   >>> Time/space are core notions of a modeling of an alleged external   
   >>> reality. To seemingly experience time and space is to experience said   
   >>> modeling as though more than merely modeling.   
   >>   
   >> How does one _not_ experience time?   
   >   
   > By turning awareness from outward (EX-perience) to inward   
   > (IN-spirience) - i.e. awareness back upon itself, which   
   > deprives the illusion of being an experiencer the wind in   
   > its sails, as it were, which takes all other conceptual   
   > framework (i.e. representation/modeling) with it.   
      
   First you need do clear up what you are talking about. You have subjective   
   time, and objective time. Subjective time can be distorted when you sleep.   
   This is trivial and completely not interesting.   
      
   External time is a process, and like I said, you have no choice but to   
   live within it.   
      
   >> Or regarding the "experiment" that "D" suggested:   
   >   
   > FWIW, "D" is possessed by hallucinations of there being   
   > an objective, external world. :-)   
      
   Incorrect. I have proven the external world. The one who is possessed by   
   hallucinations is actually you, since you deny what your senses are   
   telling you.   
      
   Only clinically insane people deny objective reality based on what their   
   senses tell them. I am worried about you. =( Don't fall into the   
   solipsistic trap. =(   
      
   What does give me hope is that despite your illusions of there being no   
   reality, you still respond to messages, so in a way you ahve refuted   
   yourself by answering. =)   
      
      
   >> how does one _not_ experience gravity on the Earth?   
   >> Gravity is a very strict law of nature!   
   >   
   > *One* cannot *not* experience gravity on the Earth,   
   ...   
      
   Not interesting.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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