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   x to Ed Cryer   
   Re: Secondary brains   
   16 Mar 25 15:58:54   
   
   From: x@x.org   
      
   On 3/16/25 14:21, Ed Cryer wrote:   
   > oldernow wrote:   
   >> On 2025-03-16, Ed Cryer  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>> The internet cuts peoples' heads off on a regular basis,   
   >>>> leaving people running around spewing liberal nonsense   
   >>>> between screams of "HITLER!" and "FASCIST!"....   
   >>>   
   >>> Well, I have a head to cut off.  From your posts, I gather   
   >>> that you don't.  Maybe that's got its benefits. Your   
   >>> lonely isolation in your ivory tower safeguards you from   
   >>> the natural shocks that flesh is heir unto.   
   >>   
   >> Indeed is identification with the idea of a free-willed   
   >> being lonely isolation!   
   >>   
   >   
   > You seem to me to be fighting for a widely held philosophical idea; that   
   > mind is on its own, uncaused, unattached and free as the wind swell.   
   > OK, so I won't take you up on that. As John Milton put it "the mind is   
   > its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven".   
   >   
   > But that seems to be the end of your campaign. A battle in the realm of   
   > metaphysics; a battle to establish the autonomy of mind.   
   > Me, I love battling. But I'd never battle to be alone. I fight for my   
   > rights; my convictions; my political goals. They keep me in the world,   
   > attached to other people.   
   >   
   > I won't fight for empiricism, I won't fight for idealism, I won't fight   
   > to grind myself into a corner. Philosophy is interesting, but it's a   
   > hobby, not an ideology.   
   >   
   > Ed   
      
   If you had the power to mind upload someone's neural engrams to   
   computer, and you purposefully denied it.   
      
   Would you be murdering someone?   
      
   What do you think?   
      
   >   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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