From: nospam@example.net   
      
   On Tue, 18 Mar 2025, Ed Cryer wrote:   
      
   > I don't doubt that the mind is a product of the brain; and that the brain is   
   > physical. Nor have I ever seriously doubted that the world is physical and   
   > real. I'm a naive realist by temperament. I like to call myself a "western   
   > scientific rationalist".   
      
   Hooray, I'm not alone! ;)   
      
   > All this seems rather unphilosophical. I guess I'm no philosopher. I just   
   like   
   > talking with intelligent people, and having my mind stimulated by interesting   
   > speculation. Let the dialogue of reason continue. It's the breeding ground of   
   > new ideas and change.   
      
   Well, it can be! Discuss with quantum physicists and then discuss if you should   
   or should not infer things from formulas that can never be proven or shown   
   evidence or disproven (choose your favourite). Are you justified in believing   
   the inferences?   
      
   Also, debating idealists can be fun, but as soon as it devolves into eternal   
   doubting and skepticism, I bow out, because there is no reason to continue the   
   discussion.   
      
   >   
   > Ed   
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