XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: newyana@invalid.nospam   
      
   On 4/17/2025 6:40 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:   
   > Newyana2:   
   >   
   >> If you believe in scientific materialism then you might   
   >> believe that consciousness is an emergent quality, arising   
   >> from chemical reactions in the brain.   
   >   
   > Is this compatible with us perceiving our own consciousness   
   > and being able to discuss it, which means it is casually   
   > active?   
   >   
   > Do you mean strong (aka miraculous) emergence, or weak   
   > emergence? IMHO, the weak variety is out of the question:   
   > chemmical, electrical, and other material processes can   
   > produce only other material processes, but not feelings,   
   > emotions, qualia...   
   >   
      
     I don't support either premise. Do we perceive   
   consciousness? That seems questionable. "I think,   
   therefore I am" is a desperate grasping at ground,   
   not an observation.   
      
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