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   Bob Casanova to All   
   Re: Existence - not "better" than never    
   18 Apr 25 22:34:33   
   
   From: nospam@buzz.off   
      
   On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 02:16:14 -0000 (UTC), the following   
   appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Borax Man   
   :   
      
   >["Followup-To:" header set to alt.philosophy.]   
   >On 2025-04-14, Bob Casanova  wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 09:31:04 -0700, the following appeared   
   >> in sci.skeptic, posted by Ron Hamilton   
   >>:   
   >>   
   >>>On 1/21/2011 10:18 AM, T. Howard Pines, Jr. wrote:   
   >>>> Coming into existence, or "getting to experience life", is not better   
   than never   
   >>>> existing.  It can't be, because no such comparison can be made.  Nor can   
   >>>> existence be worse than never existing, for the same reason.   
   >>>   
   >>>Correct.   
   >>>   
   >> Agreed. While the stated comparison isn't, strictly speaking   
   >> and AFAIK, a logical fallacy, it *is* an error in logic.   
   >   
   >Does it not follow then we could only ever experience the state of   
   >existing?   
   >   
   Obviously; experiencing something while not existing would   
   seem to be a bit difficult.   
   >   
   > If this is the case, then any possible state of the unverse,   
   >where we can exist, will be what we experience.   
   >   
   "...where we can exist"? Nope, only where we *do* exist.   
   >   
   > That is to say, we can   
   >never 'not exist' as long as thier is even the remotest possibility of a   
   >universe, any universe, where we exist in it.   
   >   
   If we exist anywhere then we exist, regardless of the   
   probability of a particular universe. You seem to strive for   
   obfuscation; I'd ask if you have a point, but since you set   
   followups to alt.philosophy, which I don't read (I read the   
   OP in sci.skeptic, as you can see above) I guess we're   
   finished.   
   >   
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