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|    Re: Inasmuch as words might    |
|    30 Apr 25 16:51:11    |
   
   From: x@x.org   
      
   On 4/30/25 09:52, oldernow wrote:   
   > The illusion of choice - aka "free will" - comes with the   
   > illusion of responsibility and, thus the illusion guilt.   
   >   
   > Also, our stories about both ourselves and others then   
   > to be of illusory beings making illusory choices, who   
   > suffer/endure illusory responsibilities, saddled with   
   > illusory guilt.   
   >   
   > The absence of the illusion of choice instantly restores   
   > the reality.   
   >   
   > The aforementioned stories can be referred to as "drama".   
   >   
   > And that's all the seeming world is, hence "the world is   
   > a stage".   
   >   
   > There's what could be modeled as a "place" (but don't get   
   > suckered into believing it *is* a place...) free of the   
   > stage and the drama thereupon.   
   >   
   > It's from whence the illusion of the stage/drama seemingly   
   > emerges.   
   >   
   > The raw underlying awareness - which, without reason or   
   > rhyme, it promotes to being reality.   
   >   
   > And here we seemingly are.   
   >   
   > Becoming fit for the world has the nasty side-effect of   
   > becoming unfit for peace.   
   >   
   > And the unfit train their successors - aka children -   
   > to be fit for the world.   
   >   
   > Thus does the nightmare - said to be a dream that life   
   > (i.e. of a free-willed being in a world) is but -   
   > perpetuate.   
   >   
   > It's not so much that the truth can't be said, as   
   > it can't be received by peoples clinging to private   
   > definitions/meanings of words/symbols.   
   >   
   > The thought "How will I remember these things?" comes   
   > to mind.   
   >   
   > It's as easy as "practice makes perfect", keeping   
   > in mind that practicing other thoughts - especially   
   > those antithetical to what is currently desired to be   
   > remembered - will play a weed role, choking away the   
   > currently desired.   
   >   
   > But how to solve the problem of the ennui generated by   
   > perpetual sameness?   
   >   
   > Couch the same in different words/symbols?   
   >   
   > No! The answer, as always, is to abide/rest/remain beneath   
   > the words/symbols layer in Awareness itself!   
   >   
   > ("And Bingo was his name, oh!")   
   >   
   > Investing in the "individual experiencing a world" illusion   
   > is real-ize-ing it, i.e. making it seemingly real.   
      
   If we can not tell the difference between a real dream   
   and an unreal dream, then does it really matter if it   
   is real or not?   
      
   In this scenario, does the word 'real' actually have   
   any true meaning or not?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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