From: oldernow@dev.null   
      
   On 2025-05-01, Ed Cryer  wrote:   
      
   >> Newbie indicators in this space:   
   >>   
   >> - The need to use words to argue about the meaning of   
   >>    words. (Think about it.)   
   >>   
   >> - More time spent asking questions than providing   
   >>    ego-collapse-triggering insights. (It usually appears   
   >>    to be instances of attempts to trip others up, or hang   
   >>    them with their own words en route to some personal   
   >>    "har har har".)   
   >>   
   >> - Displays of feeling the need to "defend truth" from those   
   >>    not understanding it per one's own modeling/representation   
   >>    of an alleged reality. (As though truth needed the defense   
   >>    of personhood illusions!)   
   >   
   > If you tell someone to go mow the grass, then (usually)   
   > they'll mow the right stuff. If they, instead, went and   
   > tore up the paving stones on the patio, I'd tell them they   
   > were idiots and not pay them.   
   >   
   > We live with common senses; the human genome struggles to   
   > keep them pure. You can point to grass, and that restricts   
   > its meaning. You can point to lots of other things as well,   
   > and their meaning is thereby secured.   
   >   
   > If someone insisted that "slowly" is an adjective, and you   
   > say it's an adverb, there are all the available efforts   
   > that previous humans have made to analyse and codify   
   > language; and then written it down.   
   >   
   > We are not born into a maelstrom of ignorance; we come   
   > into a world of established order, and most babies get   
   > lots of lovingly lavished TLC.   
   >   
   > If you point to great geniuses who have broken the mould   
   > with newness (let's say Beethoven, Newton, Picasso), what   
   > they created was created out of existing norms, rearranging   
   > existing patterns; and certainly not out of thin air.   
   >   
   > Beware of things like "It's better to ...", "I've always   
   > ...", "We should all ..", "The world would be a better   
   > place if we all .." etc.  People love to argue; many think   
   > they've discovered the best way to handle something; there   
   > are lots of idiots on the streets, as well as criminals   
   > and sick people.  But never forget that a vibrant, living   
   > language is rooted in a common perception of a reality   
   > beyond mind. And ponder this fact; ancient Greek and Latin   
   > have grammars almost identical to modern languages: nouns,   
   > verbs, adjectives etc. functioning the same.   
      
   You either get it, or you don't.   
      
      
      
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