From: x@x.org   
      
   On 5/4/25 10:51, oldernow wrote:   
   > On 2025-05-03, x  wrote:   
   >   
   >> If only people did not have 'souls' or 'egos'.   
   >   
   > So "people" are a something that *has* - i.e. possesses -   
   > a soul or ego? In contrast to, say, *is* a soul or ego?   
   >   
   > How did people come possess such?   
      
   You know, I was not being overly specific.   
      
   There is also that term 'meme', 'mind', or 'idea'.   
      
   So humans are a walking bag of 'memes' or 'ideas'.   
      
   Humans do NOT have minds or ideas?   
      
   But if humans are walking bags of 'memes' or 'ideas'.   
      
   Possessing no 'memes' or 'ideas' might be another way   
   of saying 'one is mindless'.   
      
   I do not know.   
      
   I do not know to what extent I do not know.   
      
   > Can people (which you're implying are entities/phenomena   
   > that possess a soul or ego) dis-possess themselves of that   
   > soul or ego?   
   >   
   > And see how ridiculously circular this all is, given "I"   
   > had to use the word 'them*selves*'... what's that "selves"   
   > part of the word/sentence? How does it come to possess a   
   > soul or ego?   
   >   
   > This is a good example of the ridiculousness of coming   
   > to delusionally believe that words not only represent an   
   > alleged "real reality", but for most cave dwellers become   
   > the "real reality", i.e. as though "real reality" conforms   
   > to - yea, is - their representations that they no longer   
   > see as mere representations....   
   >   
      
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