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   On 5/19/25 06:24, oldernow wrote:   
   > On 2025-05-19, Ed Cryer  wrote:   
   >   
   >>> "In attempting to induce an awakening, I think that it   
   >>> can be helpful to view ordinary experience in terms of   
   >>> two layers – namely, raw sensory data on top of which   
   >>> there's another layer of conceptuality.   
   >>>   
   >>> Now, of course, such division is never actually present   
   >>> in our direct experience, but to artificially divide   
   >>> experience in this way can be useful in this kind of   
   >>> endeavor."   
   >>>   
   >> Most people have extreme difficulty in perceiving "raw   
   >> sensory data".  That's where science has its reign.   
   >>   
   >> Have you ever given thought to why philosophers have   
   >> categorised our experience; Aristotle's Categories,   
   >> Kant's Categories.   
   >>   
   >> Try this video and ponder deeply.   
   >> https://youtu.be/ORoTCBrCKIQ   
   >   
   > 'Pondering' is just more of the "layer of conceptuality",   
   > and thus might be likened to curing dis-ease with more of   
   > the dis-ease.   
      
   I think it is possible for humans to not pay attention   
   to pain, a form of sensation.   
      
   This seems to me to be a simpler way of dealing with   
   dis ease resulting from too much pain than subtle   
   esoteric plays on words.   
      
   >   
      
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