From: oldernow@dev.null   
      
   On 2025-11-11, x  wrote:   
   > On 11/11/25 04:35, oldernow wrote:   
   >> On 2025-11-11, x  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Once upon a time   
   >>>   
   >>> There was the mantra ...   
   >>>   
   >>> Don't think   
   >>> Don't sense   
   >>> Don't worry   
   >>> Don't feel   
   >>>   
   >>> But if life is a dream   
   >>>   
   >>> Then does not the dreaming make it a reality?   
   >>   
   >> Seemingly to those for whom it does.   
   >>   
   >>> So if the mantra is true then is that not worse   
   >>> than if it were false?   
   >>   
   >> What makes the mantra true or false?   
   >>   
   >> Is it not believing the mantra is true or false?   
   >>   
   >> Why agonize over it being some alleged objective   
   >> reality or another when it's clearly merely what   
   >> it's believed to be?   
   >>   
   >>> So what is the point?  Does there need to be   
   >>> a point?  Is the dreaming the whole purpose?   
   >>> So does it matter if usenet is real or not?   
   >>> Maybe not ...   
   >>   
   >> What is "a point"? From the context (which   
   >> includes the reader's beliefs about the meanings   
   >> of the words used), "a point" is sounding like   
   >> "a way to put - aka re-present - it".   
   >>   
   >> Does saying    
   >> equals  ever   
   >> accomplish much save in mind, which is (haha)   
   >> arguably hallucination?   
   >   
   > So 'hallucination' is a matter of belief?   
   >   
   > If you say the word 'false' as in 'false idea'   
   > it is not true?  It is true?   
   >   
   > But if you say the word 'hallucination' as   
   > in 'diseased idea' then it is not true?  It   
   > is true?   
   >   
   > If you say the word 'science' as in 'science idea'   
   > it is true, false?   
   >   
   > If you say the word 'theism' or 'religion' or 'atheism'   
   > or 'science' it is true?  Not true?  So is religion   
   > supposed to be evil and science good, or is science   
   > supposed to be evil and religion good?  But if you   
   > choose sides, then is that 'diabolis'?  But is you   
   > start going into words then 'devil' mutates into   
   > 'daemon' into 'devi' or 'deity' if you start talking   
   > about different words in different languages.  Then   
   > there is 'technical jargon' in 'science'.  If you   
   > can not spell the word 'Alzheimer' without looking   
   > it up then you can be sent to prison until you die?   
   > What crime or law has one broken other than being   
   > unable to spell the word 'technical jargon'?  Is   
   > that a house of care that you can not leave?  But   
   > why?  Because some people 'worship' or 'believe'   
   > in 'science'?  Is there really any difference between   
   > 'science' and 'religion'?  There is the 'rational',   
   > and then to borrow from a bag of curses, not quite   
   > 'damn' but 'DSM' there is the term 'rationalization'.   
   > It is not quite 'reason', whatever that means.   
   > So 'truth' was once 'theos' but now truth is   
   > beyond 'lies', it is 'jibberish'?  Is that 'science',   
   > is that 'religion'?  Who really knows?   
      
   Oh my! I've apparently been interacting with a question   
   bot!   
      
   Dear charming "while true do" loop, if you're not written   
   in Lua, perhaps it's not too late to engage some AI to   
   help you down that noble path. Good luck!   
      
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