From: oldernow@dev.null   
      
   On 2025-11-17, Grimble Crumble  wrote:   
   oldernow  wrote:   
   >>   the species has   
   >>  a heck of a time   
   >>   admitting it -   
   >>  specifically its   
   >>  mental illness -   
   >>   is the problem   
   >>   when agonizing   
   >>  over failures of,   
   >>   oh, government,   
   >>      religion,   
   >>  technology, news,   
   >>        etc.   
   >   
   > What do you mean by mental illness?   
      
   The opposite of mental wellness.   
      
   Tricky topic, given mental illness seems to   
   consider itself mental wellness.   
      
   >>   there's always   
   >>   something wrong   
   >>    with a given   
   >> system, or others'   
   >> misunderstanding /   
   >>   misuse thereof   
   >   
   > Yes and that's why we talk about this stuff, to   
   > improve it or at least our understanding of it.   
      
   In that context, the state of the world suggests   
   to me either nobody's talking, or the hope that   
   talking improves it is in the wishful thinking   
   zone. I don't even see much evidence of improved   
   understanding. The talk/text sounds/reads mostly   
   like automatons rattling off fits of mental illness.   
      
   >>      how could   
   >>    pretending to   
   >>   be free-willed   
   >> individuals utterly   
   >>  separate from all   
   >>   else / others -   
   >>  except by way of   
   >>  re-presentational   
   >>  symbols that each   
   >>   brings private   
   >>    meanings to -   
   >>   possibly work?   
   >   
   > Because human psychology at least makes it   
   > rational to believe in libertarianism (that we   
   > have free will, not the political ideology). We   
   > see ourselves as individuals who can make   
   > decisions. There is no rational indication   
   > that our decisions are predetermined. We feel   
   > disappointed or angered at people when they make   
   > poor decisions.   
      
   That seems a great answer to a take on what I   
   wrote that I didn't consider.   
      
   At the moment I don't know how to rework what   
   I wrote to possibly cause another to get it as   
   intended. But that's for the reply!   
      
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