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   Seeing   
   28 Nov 25 03:25:00   
   
   From: oldernow@dev.null   
      
    "integral seeing   
     as noumenon is   
     true seeing. it   
        is seeing   
    noumenally—that   
         is, in   
      non-objective   
      relation with   
        'things',   
    instead of seeing   
     phenomenally—   
       which is in   
        objective   
      relation with   
    'things'. seeing   
     phenomenally is   
   seeing phenomena as   
   our objects. seeing   
      noumenally is   
    seeing phenomena   
     as our selves,   
    as all they are,   
   as their source and   
    as our source. it   
    is very precisely   
     not seeing them   
   as our objects but   
    as their subject,   
     not objectively   
    but subjectively,   
      not as being   
    'without' but as   
   being 'within'. it   
    is reuniting the   
     separated with   
      their integer   
    which is all that   
        we are."   
      
   --   
   NPC's dutifully ignored.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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