From: julio@diegidio.name   
      
   On 16/01/2026 08:40, Paul Edwards wrote:   
   > "Julio Di Egidio"  wrote in message   
   > news:10kbei1$kv4t$1@dont-email.me...   
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   >> The only thing you say that is almost true is that our kids   
   >> take a side eventually (in our society all do, and then stick   
   >> to it, though most don't remember it), but even the age you   
   >> give is wrong, there is no fixed age at all, that depends on   
   >> life experiences: and the mechanism is cultural, not natural,   
   >> indeed some kids at that juncture happen to have an arsenal   
   >> that is not just subjugator vs subjugated, some can already   
   >> appreciate higher ideals than just literal retribution, and   
   >> some are even already smart enough to think holistically.   
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   > Julio, I appreciate the feedback. Let's strip away the philosophy   
   > for one second and look at the technical specifications of the   
   > "hardware" (ie humans).   
      
   Philosophy, anthropology, psychology, and even medicine:   
   that humans and all life with them, and indeed the whole   
   Cosmos, reduce to "hardware" is an aberration just integral   
   to (institutional) western (in)civilisation and (in)culture.   
      
   > You mentioned that the age I provided is wrong. To be precise: Are   
   > you disputing the biological event of the major myelination   
   > 'lock-in' and synaptic pruning that occurs between ages 6 and 7?   
      
   No, anyway I am not an expert on neuroscience, I have rather   
   studied e.g. Piaget, which of course is not just about physiology.   
   What I am rather disputing is the connection between the physiology   
   and the stages of development of "higher functions" such as   
   judgement and, in particular, moral judgement.   
      
   The first few years of the infant's development indeed are crucial,   
   but for the establishment of basic abilities, bodily, then emotional,   
   and then of reasoning (individuation/logical negation), not as to   
   what to do with/build on those.   
      
      
   > My model is based on the premise that this is a critical 'Zero-Day'   
   > window   
      
   Tampering and conditioning can happen at any age: for the very   
   young what is rather relevant is things like war(/death/violence),   
   famine(/deprivation), orphanage(/isolation/psychological violence).   
      
   > You would agree that almost all adults are "stuck in their ways", right?   
      
   Eventually, structural things do crystallise, but attitude and   
   interests can change everyday: it is rather an entire lifetime   
   of (potential) development (which is obvious, once overcome the   
   conditioning to reduce all to "hardware")... or so I'd think.   
      
   Julio   
      
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