XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: MeanDog@BiteMe.dash
On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 13:54:43 +0000, Mitchell Holman
wrote:
>Kenito Benito wrote in
>news:8lo4kkptfjii6dng59u2u573vdcgtnsdou@4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 14:02:23 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Attila wrote in
>>>news:rle2kklmhvgbr6s18ed1mp2ghqg2p8qii9@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 00:49:36 -0800, Kenito Benito
>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 08:27:34 -0500, Attila
>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 01:24:27 -0800, Kenito Benito
>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sun, 14 Dec 2025 06:55:34 -0500, Attila
>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sun, 14 Dec 2025 02:40:58 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Attila wrote in
>>>>>>>>>news:n7nrjkpv42bpa4gra1lqt6kuv6taplebbi@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 14:42:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Attila wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>news:vgoqjk56d4olk6d5uf7uqlgj2na2m05fso@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ICE is doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what they are required to do under federal law as passed by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Congress and signed by the President.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Exactly what is ICE doing that is illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deporting people WITHOUT due process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They came here without any due process.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Somalis came to the US as legal
>>>>>>>>>>>refugees. The Haitians came here as legal
>>>>>>>>>>>refugees. They are here LEGALLY.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If it can be shown they broke US law they can be deported.
>>>>>>>>>> But they are not the only one's ICE can find.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If they DIDN'T break any laws why
>>>>>>>>>are you wanting to deport them?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>They broke the law by physically being in the US without
>>>>>>>>permission. They are automatically subject to immediate
>>>>>>>>deportation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not according to the Constitution and applicable federal law
>and
>>>>>>>regulation. They are subject to a deportation hearing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Which establishes their illegal status. Which can be done
>>>>>>by requesting their papers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I know you're not stupid. Stop pretending you are.
>>>>> ICE lacks the jurisdiction/authority to demand documentation or
>>>>>determine legal status if documentation is shown.
>>>>
>>>> ICE can detain pending status verification then release.
>>>> Just what verification do they use? Does every detainee
>>>> need a court hearing to be released?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes. Everyone arrested is entitled to due process
>>>and a government explanation for their detention. As
>>>much as you would like prisoners are not swept off the
>>>street and sent to a gulag. The Due Process clause
>>>applies to PEOPLE, not just citizens.
>>>
>>>
>>>"....nor shall any State deprive any ----> person <-----
>>>of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
>>>
>>
>> He knows. It's been explained. He doesn't care.
>>
>
>
> True, I need to let this one go.
>
> MAGA's "just know" they are right
>even when they are proven wrong.
>
>
No one has been deprived of theiir due process rights.
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