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On 12/17/25 10:06 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Lupov Henley wrote in news:10hv20e$3pmi8$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
>> On 12/17/25 1:51 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Lupov Henley wrote in
>>> news:10hunne$3hb04$8@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 12/17/25 11:43 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-12-17, Collectivism fails wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 14:03:35 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lupov Henley wrote in
>>>>>>> news:10huboo$3hb04$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/16/25 9:44 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Lupov Henley wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:10hsgd8$2ome3$3@dont- email.me:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/16/25 2:49 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Collectivism fails wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:t3q2kklqe32odjsvmqg0p591ecaucnorq5@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 13:50:42 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collectivism fails wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:b302kk9p1n0dnsti7b853r3gsh3n8b14nn@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 02:26:48 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collectivism fails wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ctl0kkh68ukg92q9ib6l14n7g2ppofdv05@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 18:34:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phoenix wrote in
> news:mqal1mF1vkeU2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lupov Henley wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ACA was sold to us and rammed down our throats as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being affordable. ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, Single-Payer would have been much better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately the insurance companies wield too much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They gorge themselves on 15% of every dollar spent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide nothing except billing boondoggles. Most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doctors will tell you that insurance companies are an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstacle to effective treatment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The USA isn't even in the top 50 countries in life
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expectancy despite spending the most per patient on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --bks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Medicare for all!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's broke. Fix it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans control the whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government now, their turn to fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So typical of leftist losers like Hollowhead to refuse to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept responsibility for his failures and demand that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others fix it for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Wah wah we control control the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole government but cannot get any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing done! Who shall we blame?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The failure of ACA is the Democrat's responsibility.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even if you were right what are Republicans doing
> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some, like me, for instance, are laughing at the Democrat
>>>>>>>>>>>> failure.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> See what I mean?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans don't care about solving
>>>>>>>>>>> problems, they only want to play blame
>>>>>>>>>>> games.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Blame game, you say . . . . like this?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "After today's vote, the American health care crisis is now
> 100%
>>>>>>>>>> on Republican shoulders." ~Chuck Schumer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> or this?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Our message is simple: Republicans have created a health care
>>>>>>>>>> crisis for American families who are seeing their health
>>>>>>>>>> insurance rise by 100 to 300 percent, and the solution has been
>>>>>>>>>> in front of us for a while." ~Brad Schneider
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> or this?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "The Affordable Care Act tax credits expire next month, and
>>>>>>>>>> Republicans are out of excuses. Because of the Republican
>>>>>>>>>> refusal to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits, tens of
>>>>>>>>>> millions of Americans are
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> to experience dramatically increased premiums... and yet,
>>>>>>>>>> Republicans continue to bury their heads in the sand and are
>>>>>>>>>> unwilling to address the affordability crisis that is crushing
>>>>>>>>>> the American people." ~Hakeem Jeffries
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or Trump promising to replace ObamaCare
>>>>>>>>> with his better policy - 9 YEARS AGO?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even you play the blame game.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you imagine Lincoln saying the
>>>>>>>>>>> Confederacy is not his problem, Democrats
>>>>>>>>>>> created it so re-uniting the country is
>>>>>>>>>>> not a priority?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you imagine the left saying the right has no plan even
> after
>>>>>>>>>> the right proposed HSAs instead of subsidies; subsidies given
>>>>>>>>>> directly to the policy holder; cutting out the middle man; no
>>>>>>>>>> one size fits all plans; no mandates; ability to purchase
> across
>>>>>>>>>> state lines. . . .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The public doesn't want HSA's, they
>>>>>>>>> want government health care. Like every
>>>>>>>>> other country in the civilized world has.
>>>>>>>>> Why is that so difficult?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.fox6now.com/news/two-thirds-americans-believe-
> governme
>>>>>>>>> nt- should-ensure-health-care-all-poll
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The public wants options that actually work, not just government
>>>>>>>> health care as a blanket solution. Polls show Americans are
> pretty
>>>>>>>> split on thisâ46% favor a government-run system, while 48%
>>>>>>>> prefer private (gallup).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The above cited poll in the most recent,
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