XPost: can.politics   
   From: wq@no.al   
      
   On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 03:17:17 -0000 (UTC)   
   Dhu on Gate  wrote:   
      
   > *I* am actually pretty sure the Russians are capable of winning on   
   > the battlefield, but winning a viable peace is a different matter:   
   > for that they actually need constructive input from the USA and some   
   > of Urp.   
   >   
   > Dhu   
      
   Why should either wade in?   
      
   And which slice of Urp do you consider willing to do as the USA chooses?   
      
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