XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: pothead@snakebite.com   
      
   On 2025-12-24, Governor Swill  wrote:   
   > On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 14:16:57 -0000 (UTC), pothead   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>It's a classic trait of the leftist. It's always about the rights of the   
   >>criminal vs the victim and the left will support the criminal most of   
   >>the time.   
   >   
   > Liberals have issues with injustice.  The number of people wrongfully   
   > convicted of crimes sticks in their craw.  This is one of the points I   
   > have in common with them.   
      
   It's not just liberals as conservatives feel the same.   
   FWIW I too have some points in common with liberals as well.   
   It's why i don't consider myself a right wing, FoxNews, conservative.   
      
   > My skin crawls at the thought of all the   
   > innocent people wrongfully convicted of murder and then executed. That   
   > said, they go too far and as a result, crime can run rampant.   
      
   Is that number really high?   
   I'm mixed on the death penalty but there are so many, many safety nets in place   
   that are mistakes being made?   
      
   Regarding crime, the only thing the bad guys understand is tough consequences   
   for   
   their action and little to no chance of revolving door prosecution which is   
   what NYC   
   currently has.   
      
   Do the crime, get your day in court and do the time and that time should align   
   with the seriousness of the crime.   
   Enacting policies like "steal less that $1000 in merchandise and you won't be   
   prosecuted are ludicrous and one reason why you see stores boarding up and   
   leaving   
   places like NYC and CA. Even big chains are following along.   
      
   The bad guys will flock to places like the above because they know that even   
   if they   
   do manage to get caught, they will be in and out in short time.   
   Look at how many horrific crimes are being committed by perps who have long   
   rap sheets   
   because liberal judges keep releasing them.   
   Something is in the news almost every day.   
      
   There was a study done in NYC where it was determined that the majority of   
   serious   
   crimes were being committed by the same group of perps and the reason is that   
   they don't get prosecuted due to an AG/DA and judges who are soft on them.   
      
      
   > But the right goes too far too.  Think Central Park Five, Cameron Todd   
   > Willingham, or the American citizens and legal residents who have been   
   > wrongfully renditioned out of the country.   
      
   Central Park Five were coerced by the NYPD and because they weren't the   
   sharpest   
   set of knives in the drawer, they said stupid things under pressure.   
   No question about it, however I lived in NYC during that time and what evidence   
   was released was all over the papers and local news so people took it as   
   gospel.   
   It was only years later that the truth came out.   
   Horrible?   
   Of course.   
   Dirty cops and a justice/political system that was being pressured to find the   
   perps.   
   The case of Abner Louima was another injustice.   
   The death of Eric Garner for selling lucy's is another travesty.   
   It happens but in the scheme of things, considering how many calls the NYPD get   
   it's not even a blip on the radar screen.   
   And for the most part, the justice system works.   
      
      
   > The 'third rail' of American crime is white collar crime.  Trump   
   > wanted to execute the innocent CP5 guys and refused to apologize after   
   > they were exonerated.  But then he pardons the Crisleys after they   
   > were found guilty of stealing some $18m from banks.  His pardon not   
   > only got them out of jail, but means they don't have to pay their   
   > restitution either.   
      
   The rich and powerful live by a different set of rules as has been the case   
   since the beginning of time.   
   White collar crime is rampant these days and the elite take car of their own.   
   Do I like it?   
   Of course not, but dwelling on it when the streets are unsafe is a waste of   
   time   
   and it's actually a tactic the left uses to gin up the far left voters.   
   It's the old "look at that republican over there who makes more money in   
   an hour than you make in a year" tactic.   
      
   Sure it sucks.   
   Just because someone like Madoff didn't kill anyone doesn't mean that he   
   didn't have   
   a hand in destroying innocent, trusting people's lives.   
      
   White collar crime is unfortunately buried in most cases. It bores the viewers   
   who   
   would rather hear a story of a woman burned alive or such. Sick, I know, but   
   true.   
      
      
   > Basically, America is the land of the free and the home of the brave.   
   > If you're brave enough, shouldn't you feel free to commit crime?   
      
   Of course not.   
   But some people actually believe that they can and places like NYC encourage   
   it.   
      
   --   
   pothead   
      
   Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views,   
   but then are shocked and offended to discover that there   
    are other views.   
      
   William F. Buckley, Jr.   
      
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