XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: kill_zelensky@fake.nation   
      
   On 1/2/26 5:30 PM, Governor Swill wrote:   
   > On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:48:50 -0500, Fuck the Ukraine wrote:   
   >> On 1/1/26 8:07 PM, Governor Swill wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 01:05:14 -0500, Fuck the Ukraine wrote:   
   >>>> Russia has been clear about what they want. They have no desire to rule   
   >>>> over Western Europe, and certainly not the United States.   
   >>> That's a lie.  Putin has been *quite* clear he wants to get back all   
   >>> the Russian and Soviet empires.   
   >>   
   >> The territory of the USSR was by definition _not_ part of Western Europe.   
   >   
   > Which has no bearing on the fact that Putin wants to dominate it.   
   >   
   >>> He has said so explicitly and even   
   >>> hinted that by rights, he should also get Alaska.   He has said these   
   >>> things publicly and on tape.   
   >>   
   >> Only a few seriously deranged warmongering maniacs accuse Putin of wanting   
   >> Alaska.   
   >   
   > That certainly describes Putin.   
   >   
   >>> If Russia was such a great place, why did so many SSRs declare   
   >>> independence and why did the entire Warsaw Pact stampede into the arms   
   >>> of NATO?  Even three former Soviet states ran to NATO for protection   
   >>> from Muscovy!   
   >>   
   >> Doesn't matter,   
   >   
   > But it matters when you Russkies whine about NATO expansion.   
      
   I'm not Russian, you faggot.   
      
   > NATO has never invited a country into the alliance since the charter members   
   > formed it in 1949.  They always come and ask for entry because they know   
   > only NATO can keep them safe from Muscovy.  The entire Warsaw Pact stampeded   
   > into NATO within a single generation because they KNOW what Russian   
   > domination and occupation means.   
   >   
   > Sweden has been neutral for centuries and Finland has long declined to take   
   > sides for or against Russia.  Until Putin invaded Ukraine.   
   >   
   > His stated purpose, that of preventing NATO expansion by threatening his   
   > neighbors, has utterly failed.  He has achieved the opposite effect.  Not   
   > only has NATO expanded, but did so right on his doorstep, tripling his   
   > border with the alliance.   
   >   
   > Putin has severely miscalculated.  His aggression against Ukraine, far from   
   > cowing Europe has galvanized it.   
   British mothers will not accept that their sons have to die for Sweden,   
   Finland, Estonia or Poland. But the UK itself is not even currently   
   capable of deploying one thousand actual fighting men.   
      
   > For decades US presidents have all but begged Europe to spend more on it's   
   > own defense but it took a Russian dictator only a very short time to   
   > effectively double European military spending.   
   >   
   > Putin is an idiot who fscked up big time.  Siberia is agitating for   
   > independence, China will soon be taking back bits of Asian Russia, and   
   > Moscow will be too weak to ever recover from the economic damage this war   
   > has caused them.   
   Russia currently outproduces the United States in weapons. They can damn   
   well also outproduce the United States in other areas.   
      
   >> and no real American thinks it's our concern.   
   >   
   > How would YOU know what Americans think?   
      
   I'm an American descended from colonists, as opposed to being a Jewish   
   pederast like you. I have not so much as a drop of Russian blood in me.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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