XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: MeanDog@Snarl.Dash   
      
   On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 11:41:24 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.   
   Sherman) wrote:   
      
   >>>> | U.S. plan to 'run' Venezuela clouded in confusion   
   >   
   >> | But we cannot lose sight of what has brought us here -- to   
   >> | the surreal and yet somehow entirely foreseeable situation   
   >> | in which the Trump administration has illegally abducted   
   >> | the leader of Venezuela, a country that has engaged in no   
   >> | hostilities with the United States, without even the   
   >> | appearance of an effort to enlist the support of the   
   >> | American public or their elected representatives in   
   >> | Congress, and without even the semblance of a stated plan   
   >> | for how the country will be governed.   
   >   
   > | ...   
   > | The bottom line is, unlike the boat strikes the U.S.   
   > | military has carried out to date that have occurred in   
   > | international waters against stateless vessels, this   
   > | operation, striking Venezuela and abducting its president,   
   > | is clearly a violation of the prohibition on the use of   
   > | force in Article 2(4) of the UN Charter. That prohibition   
   > | is the bedrock rule of the international system that   
   > | separates the rule of law from anarchy, safeguards small   
   > | States from their more powerful neighbors, and protects   
   > | civilians from the devastation of war. The consequences of   
   > | flouting this rule so brazenly are likely to extend well   
   > | beyond the case of Maduro's forcible ouster. Likewise, the   
   > | initiation of an armed conflict - triggering the   
   > | application of the law of armed conflict, including all   
   > | four Geneva Conventions - has meaningful consequences,   
   > | ranging from the protections now owed to Venezuelan   
   > | nationals in the United States, to the application of rules   
   > | governing treatment of Maduro and his wife while in U.S.   
   > | custody, to accountability for any war crimes committed in   
   > | the course of the conflict.   
   > | ...   
   >   
   >   
   >    --bks   
      
      
    Did you call the cops?   
   --   
      
   "Collectivism, any of several types of social organization in which   
   the individual is seen as being subordinate to a social collectivity   
    such as a state, a nation, a race, or a social class. Collectivism   
   may be contrasted with individualism (q.v.), in which the rights and   
    interests of the individual are emphasized.   
   https://www.britannica.com/topic/collectivism   
      
   A collectivist is someone who is content to give up his rights and   
   interests and be subordinant to the group's leader, Such people are   
   commonly referred to as"sheeple."   
      
   Collectivism is for losers   
      
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