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   Message 93,697 of 94,851   
   pothead to -hh   
   Re: Tariffs Boomerang On Orange Tariffma   
   08 Jan 26 23:21:59   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc   
   From: pothead@snakebite.com   
      
   On 2026-01-07, -hh  wrote:   
   > On 1/5/26 18:42, pothead wrote:   
   >> On 2026-01-05, -hh  wrote:   
   >>> pothead  wrote:   
   >>>> On 2026-01-03, Governor Swill  wrote:   
   >>>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 22:27:35 -0000 (UTC), pothead   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 2026-01-02, Governor Swill  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Thu, 01 Jan 2026 19:06:52 -0500, Governor Swill   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 16:30:20 -0500, Governor Swill   
   >>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 16:46:42 -0000 (UTC), pothead   
   >>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Give up because you simply will never convince anyone but a fellow   
   >>>>>>>>>> TDS sufferer that the media is fair to Trump.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I never said it was.  I only disagreed that it was "almost 100% anti   
   >>>>>>>>> Trump, 24x7."   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> If you can't get your facts straight, stfu.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Btw, what happened to the $20T in investments he claims he brought to   
   >>>>>>>>> the US this year?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Still waiting, pothead.  Where is the $17-$20 trillion Trump says he   
   >>>>>>> brought to the US as investment capital?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I don't believe I said that.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> No, you didn't and I never claimed you did.  My point is your opinion   
   >>>>> of negative coverage of Trump.  Well here's one.  He said had brought   
   >>>>> in $17-$20 trillion in new investment into our economy.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I've presented various studies from different outlets clearly   
   demonstrating   
   >>>> the massive percentage of negative vs positive coverage of Trump and it's   
   not   
   >>>> even close.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You simply cannot deny this.   
   >>>   
   >>> The fallacy here is in trying to claim that accuracy reporting news is   
   >>> “positive” or “negative” based on what the news is.   
   >>>   
   >>> For example, the Storm Channel reports on hurricanes, tornadoes, floods,   
   >>> etc, so by your metric definition, that’s 100% “negative” because   
   they   
   >>> never report those places with clear blue skies, pleasant temperatures &   
   >>> gentle breezes.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>> The press pointed at laughed at the idiocy of such a claim.  Does that   
   >>>>> count as negative press?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You are moving the goal posts again.   
   >>>   
   >>> Not at all, for the news being reported was of a false fiscal claim by a   
   >>> newsworthy figure: the responsibility for it being a false claim lies with   
   >>> the claimant, not the messenger.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>> The fact remains, Trump said it and was *accurately* reported as being   
   >>>>> a liar.  Do you consider that "negative press"?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I consider not reporting on his successes or lying by omission unfair.   
   >>>> And the various studies prove that beyond a doubt.   
   >>>   
   >>> Not possible by the choice of method.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>> The international press has reported that drug makers in both the US   
   >>>>> and Europe have agreed to raise prices on a list of common drugs   
   >>>>> despite pressure from the Trump administration.  That is fact and has   
   >>>>> been reported everywhere except, as far as I can find, Fox.  I   
   >>>>> included "fox news" in my search terms for this story and still found   
   >>>>> no Fox report on it.  Nor was I able to find it searching at Fox.com.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You're all over the place here.   
   >>>> A single incident != 90 plus percent negative coverage of Trump by the   
   MSM.   
   >>>   
   >>> If you’re going to try to use percentages, you need to first baseline &   
   >>> normalize by what % of actions by the subject are themselves negative.   
   >>> Otherwise, you’re back to complaining that the Storm Channel doesn’t   
   devote   
   >>> 50% of its time to non-stormy weather.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>> So tell us, whose reporting is more accurate and complete on these   
   >>>>> stories?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Goal post move.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I've presented various studies from different outlets clearly   
   demonstrating   
   >>>> the massive percentage of negative vs positive coverage of Trump and it's   
   not   
   >>>> even close.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You simply cannot deny this.   
   >>>   
   >>> Considering that 95% of the news that Trump is making is negative, if the   
   >>> MSM’s reports thereof are only 90%, it means that they’re biasing in   
   favor   
   >>> of making Trump look less bad.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> -hh   
   >>   
   >> Give me a break.   
   >   
   > No.   
      
   LOL.   
   Well either way you are not doing very well despite the pile on me from the   
   usual   
   TDS sufferers.   
      
      
      
   >   
   >> Why not research how much negative news the press tried to cover up for   
   Biden.   
   >   
   > I haven't made such a claim, so I have no reason to substantiate it.   
      
   Translation: you are afraid to admit the difference in coverage.   
      
      
   > Meantime, *you* have made a claim, but avoiding substantiation.   
      
   What claim would that be?   
      
      
   >   
   >> The wind caused him to stumble 3x on the airplane staircase.   
   >   
   > Jerry Ford snow skiing.  Next!   
      
   Or playing golf.   
   Your point?   
   Goal post move again.   
   Biden vs Trump.   
   Do try and focus.   
      
      
      
   >> The list is endless.   
   >>   
   >> Your dodge fails because numerous outlets have surveyed the Trump coverage   
   and   
   >> it's rare that he gets a positive spin just like it was rare that Biden got   
   a negative   
   >> spin.   
   >   
   > No, not a dodge at all:  you're living on the rainiest spot on Earth and   
   > complaining that the weatherman's tells you its going to rain again.   
      
   Huh? You are once again babbling about unrelated topics.   
   You do that a lot.   
   Have you actually watched the left wing media the past, say 10 years or so?   
      
   Imagine if Trump had claimed his uncle Boise was eaten by cannibles from   
   Papa New Guinea.   
   Oh and they were pissed.....   
      
   How about Trump showering with his pubescent daughter?   
      
   It would be page one for months in the left wing media.   
   Yet both are true about Biden and swept under the rug by the left wing media.   
      
   >   
   >> I could go on for pages.   
   >   
   > With only deflection attempts, not actually testing your claim by   
   > normalizing the data.   
      
   Yawn.   
   Open your eyes for once.   
      
      
   >> Your argument is flaccid and with all the earmarks of a left wing dodge.   
   >   
   > Translation:  you know ... but can't admit ... that the news on Trump   
   > has a 200 ton garbage scow of crap for every pretty flower.   
      
   LOL !!!   
      
   Nope.   
      
   See above.   
      
      
      
   > In the meantime, all of your "Soooo Dangerous NYC" narrative has been   
   > countered by how 2025 had the lowest number of murders/shootings since   
   > they've been recording that metric:   
      
   And who was POTUS in 2025?   
   Nice try.   
   And yes the POTUS has an effect on crime in major cities especially in crime   
   reporting because unlike Biden, he is looking under every rock for reporting   
   fraud.   
      
      
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