XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: effingretard@fascist.org   
      
   On 1/30/26 9:49 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   > fauci's mask wrote in   
   > news:10lj8a8$278jl$6@dont-email.me:   
   >   
   >> On 1/30/26 4:22 PM, phoenix wrote:   
   >>> fauci's mask wrote:   
   >>>> On 1/30/26 2:37 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>>>> fauci's mask wrote in   
   >>>>> news:10lifhu$1haq8$3@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 1/30/26 3:00 AM, Governor Swill wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 10:43:30 -0500, fauci's mask   
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 1/28/26 5:19 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-26 07:59, fauci's mask wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 1/26/26 9:26 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> fauci's mask wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>> news:10l7qjq$2ho60$1@dont-   
   >>>>>>>>>>> email.me:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/26/26 8:02 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Get shot in the back by Trump's thugs.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> --bks   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> He deserved it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> For doing what?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> For being the dumbest fuck in Minneapolis. No permit (required   
   >>>>>>>>>> to carry in MN);   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> 1. He had a permit.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Not on him as is required by MN law.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Prove it.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Already did. I posted the law, which appears below.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> He was not asked for it.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> He didn't need to be.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> 3. Even if he hadn't, they had no way to know that when they   
   >>>>>>>>> shot him.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Irrelevant.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Bullshit. If they didn't ask, they violated his rights.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I'm not arguing that point. All I'm saying is he's required to   
   >>>>>> have the permit and ID on him. He didn't. Thus, he broke the law.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> no government ID (required to carry in MN);   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Cite that law please.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Already done, but here it is again:   
   >>>>>>>> Minnesota Statutes Section 624.714, Subdivision 1b(a) The holder   
   >>>>>>>> of a permit to carry *MUST HAVE THE PERMIT CARD AND a driver's   
   >>>>>>>> license, state identification card, or other government-issued   
   >>>>>>>> photo identification in IMMEDIATE POSSESSION at all times when   
   >>>>>>>> carrying a pistol*   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> There is no evidence that he was ever asked for a permit. I   
   >>>>>>> haven't seen any video of him holding the gun. According to all   
   >>>>>>> reports on the subject, the gun was found holstered after he was   
   >>>>>>> shot.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Uh...okay. Again, he doesn't need to be asked for it. He's still   
   >>>>>> required to have it, and his ID, on him while in possession of a   
   >>>>>> gun.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>> What did this supposed "interference" consist of?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Nothing supposed about it. Video shows him face to face with an   
   >>>>>>>> agent in the street and being moved back to, or near, the   
   >>>>>>>> sidewalk (would have been fine if he stayed right there); but   
   >>>>>>>> no, the dumbass then walks back into the street, disregarding   
   >>>>>>>> what the agent had him do, filming interaction of agents with   
   >>>>>>>> another couple other dumbasses. A woman gets sauced and the   
   >>>>>>>> dumbass goes to over to her, interfering with that interaction.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> And that is a capital crime calling for summary execution?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Nope, never said it was.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> aggressive demeanor - getting directly in the face of a   
   >>>>>>>>>> Federal ICE agent and pressing into the agent to the point   
   >>>>>>>>>> that the agent put out his hand to prevent Pretti from moving   
   >>>>>>>>>> closer to the agent;   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Did he get closer to the agent...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yes, he did - when the agent pushed one of the other dumbasses   
   >>>>>>>> he went over to the agent and even put his hands on him to get   
   >>>>>>>> him to back off.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ...or did the agent approach him?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The first time the agent moved him off the street. After that   
   >>>>>>>> the dumbass approached the agents.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So, you asked.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> did not comply. He did everything wrong that we are trained to   
   >>>>>>>>>> do when concealing.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> He wasn't given a chance to comply.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> He absolutely was, and he disregarded it.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So, you asked.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> He was being held down by multiple agents, and one of them had   
   >>>>>>>>> taken away the gun he never even reached for.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yes. . . . and?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> And AFTER restraining AND disarming him, they shot him to death   
   >>>>>>> anyway.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That's right. The question I have is when these agents are   
   >>>>>> prosecuted, will they be treated the same as Michael Byrd?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Who said these agents will be prosecuted?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Uh....I just did.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> All you legal meatballs here are so certain they murdered Pretti   
   >>>> that this should be a slam dunk for Mary Moriarty and just a matter   
   >>>> of time. A blue prosecutor certainly can't let this injustice go   
   >>>> unpunished, right?   
   >>>   
   >>> Shit is razor thin. What sells me on prosecution is the video showing   
   >>> the two agents who escalated the situation.   
   >>   
   >> I don't know what video you're watching, but it sure ain't Pretti's   
   >> killing.   
   >>   
   >>> However, I don't think Alex   
   >>> Pretti gave much thought to his own life.   
   >>   
   >> It's almost like a suicide, isn't it? Which puts his utter lack of   
   >> judgment and history of aggressive behavior toward law enforcement   
   >> directly in the crosshairs.   
   >   
   >   
   > That would be a great defense at the   
   > agent who killed him's trial.   
      
   No it wouldn't.   
      
   > Except there isn't going to be a trial.   
      
   There will be. The MN AG or Minneapolis DA will not let it go.   
      
   > The Trump DOJ won't even investigate the   
   > case much less prosecuted it.   
      
   Sure they are.   
      
   > The verdict is already. It is legal to   
   > shoot people in the back as long as they are   
   > "aggressive to law enforcement"   
      
   That's not facts, that's a slogan.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >>> But isn't that what Kyle   
   >>> Rittenhouse was commended for?   
   >>   
   >> Nah. Pretti: mouthy protestor, kicks taillights, acts aggressively   
   >> towards law enforcement.   
   >   
   >   
   > Law abiding gun owner.   
      
   Nope, didn't have his permit or ID on him. We're not going through this   
   again, are we?   
      
   >   
   >   
   >> Rittenhouse: armed vigilante, shot two dead.   
   >> Reckless? I guess. Commendable hero? Only in one narrative.   
   >   
   >   
   > Did he get shot for failing to have the   
   > proper gun permit on him?   
      
   Stupid question.   
    >   
      
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