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   Message 94,147 of 94,851   
   phoenix to fauci's mask   
   Re: Good Guys With Guns (1/2)   
   31 Jan 26 09:56:25   
   
   XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: j63840576@gmail.com   
      
   fauci's mask wrote:   
   > On 1/30/26 9:49 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >> fauci's mask  wrote in   
   >> news:10lj8a8$278jl$6@dont-email.me:   
   >>   
   >>> On 1/30/26 4:22 PM, phoenix wrote:   
   >>>> fauci's mask wrote:   
   >>>>> On 1/30/26 2:37 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>>>>> fauci's mask  wrote in   
   >>>>>> news:10lifhu$1haq8$3@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 1/30/26 3:00 AM, Governor Swill wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 10:43:30 -0500, fauci's mask   
   >>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 1/28/26 5:19 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-26 07:59, fauci's mask wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 1/26/26 9:26 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> fauci's mask  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> news:10l7qjq$2ho60$1@dont-   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> email.me:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/26/26 8:02 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get shot in the back by Trump's thugs.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>          --bks   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> He deserved it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>        For doing what?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> For being the dumbest fuck in Minneapolis. No permit (required   
   >>>>>>>>>>> to carry in MN);   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> 1. He had a permit.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Not on him as is required by MN law.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Prove it.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Already did. I posted the law, which appears below.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> He was not asked for it.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> He didn't need to be.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> 3. Even if he hadn't, they had no way to know that when they   
   >>>>>>>>>> shot him.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Irrelevant.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Bullshit.  If they didn't ask, they violated his rights.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I'm not arguing that point. All I'm saying is he's required to   
   >>>>>>> have the permit and ID on him. He didn't. Thus, he broke the law.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> no government ID (required to carry in MN);   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Cite that law please.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Already done, but here it is again:   
   >>>>>>>>> Minnesota Statutes Section 624.714, Subdivision 1b(a) The holder   
   >>>>>>>>> of a permit to carry *MUST HAVE THE PERMIT CARD AND a driver's   
   >>>>>>>>> license, state identification card, or other government-issued   
   >>>>>>>>> photo identification in IMMEDIATE POSSESSION at all times when   
   >>>>>>>>> carrying a pistol*   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> There is no evidence that he was ever asked for a permit.  I   
   >>>>>>>> haven't seen any video of him holding the gun.  According to all   
   >>>>>>>> reports on the subject, the gun was found holstered after he was   
   >>>>>>>> shot.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Uh...okay. Again, he doesn't need to be asked for it. He's still   
   >>>>>>> required to have it, and his ID, on him while in possession of a   
   >>>>>>> gun.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>> What did this supposed "interference" consist of?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Nothing supposed about it. Video shows him face to face with an   
   >>>>>>>>> agent in the street and being moved back to, or near, the   
   >>>>>>>>> sidewalk (would have been fine if he stayed right there); but   
   >>>>>>>>> no, the dumbass then walks back into the street, disregarding   
   >>>>>>>>> what the agent had him do, filming interaction of agents with   
   >>>>>>>>> another couple other dumbasses. A woman gets sauced and the   
   >>>>>>>>> dumbass goes to over to her, interfering with that interaction.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> And that is a capital crime calling for summary execution?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Nope, never said it was.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> aggressive demeanor - getting directly in the face of a   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Federal ICE agent and pressing into the agent to the point   
   >>>>>>>>>>> that the agent put out his hand to prevent Pretti from moving   
   >>>>>>>>>>> closer to the agent;   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Did he get closer to the agent...   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Yes, he did - when the agent pushed one of the other dumbasses   
   >>>>>>>>> he went over to the agent and even put his hands on him to get   
   >>>>>>>>> him to back off.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> ...or did the agent approach him?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The first time the agent moved him off the street. After that   
   >>>>>>>>> the dumbass approached the agents.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So, you asked.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> did not comply. He did everything wrong that we are trained to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> do when concealing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> He wasn't given a chance to comply.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> He absolutely was, and he disregarded it.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So, you asked.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> He was being held down by multiple agents, and one of them had   
   >>>>>>>>>> taken away the gun he never even reached for.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Yes. . . . and?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> And AFTER restraining AND disarming him, they shot him to death   
   >>>>>>>> anyway.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> That's right. The question I have is when these agents are   
   >>>>>>> prosecuted, will they be treated the same as Michael Byrd?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>      Who said these agents will be prosecuted?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Uh....I just did.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> All you legal meatballs here are so certain they murdered Pretti   
   >>>>> that this should be a slam dunk for Mary Moriarty and just a matter   
   >>>>> of time. A blue prosecutor certainly can't let this injustice go   
   >>>>> unpunished, right?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Shit is razor thin. What sells me on prosecution is the video showing   
   >>>> the two agents who escalated the situation.   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't know what video you're watching, but it sure ain't Pretti's   
   >>> killing.   
   >>>   
   >>>> However, I don't think Alex   
   >>>> Pretti gave much thought to his own life.   
   >>>   
   >>> It's almost like a suicide, isn't it? Which puts his utter lack of   
   >>> judgment and history of aggressive behavior toward law enforcement   
   >>> directly in the crosshairs.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>      That would be a great defense at the   
   >> agent who killed him's trial.   
   >   
   > No it wouldn't.   
   >   
   >>      Except there isn't going to be a trial.   
   >   
   > There will be. The MN AG or Minneapolis DA will not let it go.   
   >   
   >>      The Trump DOJ won't even investigate the   
   >> case much less prosecuted it.   
   >   
   > Sure they are.   
   >   
   >>      The verdict is already. It is legal to   
   >> shoot people in the back as long as they are   
   >> "aggressive to law enforcement"   
   >   
   > That's not facts, that's a slogan.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>> But isn't that what Kyle   
   >>>> Rittenhouse was commended for?   
   >>>   
   >>> Nah. Pretti: mouthy protestor, kicks taillights, acts aggressively   
   >>> towards law enforcement.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>      Law abiding gun owner.   
   >   
   > Nope, didn't have his permit or ID on him. We're not going through this   
   > again, are we?   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> Rittenhouse: armed vigilante, shot two dead.   
      
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