XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: effingretard@fascist.org   
      
   On 1/31/26 9:40 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   > fauci's mask wrote in news:10ll2hc$278jl$8   
   > @dont-email.me:   
   >   
   >> On 1/30/26 9:49 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>> fauci's mask wrote in   
   >>> news:10lj8a8$278jl$6@dont-email.me:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 1/30/26 4:22 PM, phoenix wrote:   
   >>>>> fauci's mask wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 1/30/26 2:37 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>>>>>> fauci's mask wrote in   
   >>>>>>> news:10lifhu$1haq8$3@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 1/30/26 3:00 AM, Governor Swill wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 10:43:30 -0500, fauci's mask   
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 1/28/26 5:19 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-26 07:59, fauci's mask wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/26/26 9:26 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> fauci's mask wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:10l7qjq$2ho60$1@dont-   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> email.me:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/26/26 8:02 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get shot in the back by Trump's thugs.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --bks   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He deserved it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> For doing what?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> For being the dumbest fuck in Minneapolis. No permit   
   > (required   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> to carry in MN);   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> 1. He had a permit.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Not on him as is required by MN law.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Prove it.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Already did. I posted the law, which appears below.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> He was not asked for it.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> He didn't need to be.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> 3. Even if he hadn't, they had no way to know that when they   
   >>>>>>>>>>> shot him.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Bullshit. If they didn't ask, they violated his rights.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I'm not arguing that point. All I'm saying is he's required to   
   >>>>>>>> have the permit and ID on him. He didn't. Thus, he broke the law.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> no government ID (required to carry in MN);   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Cite that law please.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Already done, but here it is again:   
   >>>>>>>>>> Minnesota Statutes Section 624.714, Subdivision 1b(a) The   
   > holder   
   >>>>>>>>>> of a permit to carry *MUST HAVE THE PERMIT CARD AND a driver's   
   >>>>>>>>>> license, state identification card, or other government-issued   
   >>>>>>>>>> photo identification in IMMEDIATE POSSESSION at all times when   
   >>>>>>>>>> carrying a pistol*   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> There is no evidence that he was ever asked for a permit. I   
   >>>>>>>>> haven't seen any video of him holding the gun. According to   
   > all   
   >>>>>>>>> reports on the subject, the gun was found holstered after he was   
   >>>>>>>>> shot.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Uh...okay. Again, he doesn't need to be asked for it. He's still   
   >>>>>>>> required to have it, and his ID, on him while in possession of a   
   >>>>>>>> gun.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>> What did this supposed "interference" consist of?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Nothing supposed about it. Video shows him face to face with an   
   >>>>>>>>>> agent in the street and being moved back to, or near, the   
   >>>>>>>>>> sidewalk (would have been fine if he stayed right there); but   
   >>>>>>>>>> no, the dumbass then walks back into the street, disregarding   
   >>>>>>>>>> what the agent had him do, filming interaction of agents with   
   >>>>>>>>>> another couple other dumbasses. A woman gets sauced and the   
   >>>>>>>>>> dumbass goes to over to her, interfering with that interaction.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> And that is a capital crime calling for summary execution?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Nope, never said it was.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> aggressive demeanor - getting directly in the face of a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Federal ICE agent and pressing into the agent to the point   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> that the agent put out his hand to prevent Pretti from moving   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> closer to the agent;   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Did he get closer to the agent...   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Yes, he did - when the agent pushed one of the other dumbasses   
   >>>>>>>>>> he went over to the agent and even put his hands on him to get   
   >>>>>>>>>> him to back off.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> ...or did the agent approach him?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> The first time the agent moved him off the street. After that   
   >>>>>>>>>> the dumbass approached the agents.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> So?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So, you asked.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> did not comply. He did everything wrong that we are trained   
   > to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> do when concealing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> He wasn't given a chance to comply.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> He absolutely was, and he disregarded it.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> So?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So, you asked.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> He was being held down by multiple agents, and one of them had   
   >>>>>>>>>>> taken away the gun he never even reached for.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Yes. . . . and?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> And AFTER restraining AND disarming him, they shot him to death   
   >>>>>>>>> anyway.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> That's right. The question I have is when these agents are   
   >>>>>>>> prosecuted, will they be treated the same as Michael Byrd?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Who said these agents will be prosecuted?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Uh....I just did.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> All you legal meatballs here are so certain they murdered Pretti   
   >>>>>> that this should be a slam dunk for Mary Moriarty and just a matter   
   >>>>>> of time. A blue prosecutor certainly can't let this injustice go   
   >>>>>> unpunished, right?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Shit is razor thin. What sells me on prosecution is the video   
   > showing   
   >>>>> the two agents who escalated the situation.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I don't know what video you're watching, but it sure ain't Pretti's   
   >>>> killing.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> However, I don't think Alex   
   >>>>> Pretti gave much thought to his own life.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It's almost like a suicide, isn't it? Which puts his utter lack of   
   >>>> judgment and history of aggressive behavior toward law enforcement   
   >>>> directly in the crosshairs.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> That would be a great defense at the   
   >>> agent who killed him's trial.   
   >>   
   >> No it wouldn't.   
   >>   
   >>> Except there isn't going to be a trial.   
   >>   
   >> There will be. The MN AG or Minneapolis DA will not let it go.   
   >>   
   >>> The Trump DOJ won't even investigate the   
   >>> case much less prosecuted it.   
   >>   
   >> Sure they are.   
   >>   
   >>> The verdict is already. It is legal to   
   >>> shoot people in the back as long as they are   
   >>> "aggressive to law enforcement"   
   >>   
      
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