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   From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca   
      
   In article ,   
   AlleyCat   wrote:   
   >   
   >On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 21:32:24 -0800,  Alan says...   
   >   
   >> There can literally be no "annexing" without seizing.   
   >   
   >Sure there can.   
   >   
   >In general English, "to annex" or "an annex" simply refers to addition and   
   >attachment. It does not require force, and in these contexts, it is often a   
   >neutral or even positive thing.   
   >   
   >General Action (The Verb): It can simply mean to "tack on" or "append" one   
   >thing to another.   
   >   
   >No matter what YOU think "annex" means, Trump never said "annex" OR "seize".   
   >   
   >Both were made up by Lyin' Lee.   
   >   
   >Show us the words "annex" OR "seize".   
   >   
   >Here... I'll help.   
   >   
   >"You cannot annex another country," they said. "We expect respect for our   
   >joint territorial integrity."   
   >   
   >THEY said... not Trump.   
   >   
   >"US President Trump has said several times he wants to annex Greenland..."   
   >   
   >No direct quote. Another "he said" shit, without proof. In that context,   
   >whoever the AUTHOR is, said "annex".   
   >   
   >Someone else saying annex doesn't count. Many journalists use inflammatory   
   >words.   
   >   
   >If TRUMP said he wants to annex Greenland by force or seizure... please find   
   >the quote for us.   
   >   
   >"Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen warned the US that 'you cannot annex   
   >another country'."   
   >   
   >Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said "annex". Did Trump?   
   >   
   >No other instances of "annex" were in the articles Lyin' Lee posted.   
   >   
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   >   
   >The Case of Greenland   
   >   
   >As of January 4,2026, the term "annexation" is being used by world leaders to   
   >describe the United States' renewed and aggressive interest in Greenland.   
   >   
   >(WORLD LEADERS)   
   >   
   >(Trump?)   
   >   
   >The Current Tension: Yesterday, following the U.S. military action in   
   >Venezuela, a senior Trump administration aide (Katie Miller) posted an image   
   >of Greenland covered by the American flag with the caption "SOON."   
   >   
   >The Diplomatic Response: DANISH PRIME MINISTER METTE FREDERIKSEN responded   
   >today, explicitly stating: "The U.S. has no right to annex any of the three   
   >countries in the Danish Kingdom."   
   >   
   >(DANISH PRIME MINISTER METTE FREDERIKSEN)   
   >   
   >(Trump?)   
   >   
   >Not yet.   
   >   
   >=====   
   >   
   >"We need Greenland for national security and even international security. And   
   >we're working with everybody involved to try and get it. And I think we're   
   >going to get it one way or the other. We're going to get it."   
   >   
   >(no "seizing", no "annexing")   
   >   
   >"I think that will happen... We have to do it. We really need it for national   
   >security."   
   >   
   >(no "seizing", no "annexing")   
   >   
   >"Mr. President, would you rule out using military or economic force to take   
   >control of Greenland if a deal cannot be reached?"   
   >   
   >In his response, he stated:   
   >   
   >"No, I can't assure you on either of those two. I'M NOT GOING TO COMMIT to   
   >that. It might be that you'll have to do something."   
   >   
   >(STILL no "seizing", no "annexing")   
   >   
   >"Can you assure the world that as you try to get control of these areas you   
   >are not going to use military or economic coercion?"   
   >   
   >Donald Trump's Response: "No."   
   >   
   >(no)   
   >   
   >"I can't assure you-you're talking about Panama and Greenland-no, I can't   
   >assure you on either of those two, but I can say this: we need them for   
   >economic security. The Panama Canal was built for our military. I'M NOT GOING   
   >TO COMMIT to that. It might be that you'll have to do something. Look, the   
   >Panama Canal is vital to our country. It's being operated by China. China! And   
   >we gave the Panama Canal to Panama, we didn't give it to China, and they've   
   >abused it."   
   >   
   >(STILL no "seizing", no "annexing")   
   >   
   >If "seizing" or "annexing" was never said BY Trump, this is all moot.   
   >   
   >Lyin' Lee used words MADE up by journalists.   
   >   
   >Not committing to ruling something out, does NOT mean it will come down to   
   >that. Again, assumptions are being made.   
   >   
   >That is an essential distinction to maintain. Declining to rule out an option   
   >is a STANDARD NEGOTIATING OR STRATEGIC STANCE and, as you noted, DOES NOT   
   >CONFIRM THAT A SPECIFIC OUTCOME IS INEVITABLE.   
   >   
   >=====   
   >   
   >So... in closing, you were unable to find any direct quotes where Trump used   
   >either of the terms "annexing" OR "seizing".   
   >   
   >   
   >That is correct. Based on the transcripts from his press conferences and the   
   >State of the Union address through early 2026, I have not found a direct quote   
   >where Donald Trump used the specific word "annexing" or "seizing" to describe   
   >his plans for Greenland.   
   >   
   >To be precise, THOSE TERMS ARE CONSISTENTLY USED BY THE REPORTERS asking him   
   >questions, or by journalists and foreign leaders reacting to his statements.   
   >   
   >Trump's Actual Verbs vs. Media Verbs   
   >   
   >In the interest of being "exhausting" about these definitions, it is helpful   
   >to see the literal words he has used versus the labels others have applied to   
   >them:   
   >   
   >What Trump Said (Direct Quote) - Word Media/Critics Used - Why they used that   
   >word:   
   >   
   >"Get it one way or the other" - Annex / Seize - These words are used when an   
   >acquisition doesn't require a "Yes" from the other side.   
   >   
   >"Acquire" / "Reclaiming" - Annex / Seize - "Reclaiming" implies the land   
   >already belongs to you, which justifies taking it.   
   >   
   >"Taking control" - Seize - Usually refers to military or administrative   
   >takeover.   
   >   
   >"A deal that must happen" - Purchase / Annex - If the other side says no to a   
   >deal, but it 'must happen," it implies a forced outcome.   
   >   
   >*****************************************************************************   
   >   
   >In Conclusion   
   >   
   >You are right to point out that failing to rule out an action is not the same   
   >as committing to it. The word "annexation" appears ONLY in the headlines   
   >because it is the specific legal term for taking territory without the consent   
   >of the current owner. Since Trump has said he wants the land and has not ruled   
   >out using force to "get it," observers use the word "annexation" as the   
   >technical description of that potential scenario.   
   >   
   >(AGAIN... Trump did not use the words)   
   >   
   >*****************************************************************************   
   >   
   >"I am pleased to announce that I am appointing the GREAT Governor of   
   >Louisiana, Jeff Landry, as the United States Special Envoy to Greenland. Jeff   
   >understands how essential Greenland is to our National Security, and will   
   >strongly advance our Country's Interests for the Safety, Security, and   
   >Survival of our Allies, and indeed, the World. Congratulations Jeff!" Dec 21,   
   >2025, 8:21 PM   
   >   
   >=====   
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   >   
   >President Trump renews push for Greenland, citing U.S. national security needs   
   >written by Dillon Burroughs December 23,2025   
   >   
   >President Donald Trump on Monday again argued that the United States needs   
   >Greenland for "national security," increasing tensions with Denmark after   
      
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