XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics   
   From: MeanDog@Snarl.Dash   
      
   On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 14:50:00 -0600, super70s   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 2026-01-08 20:46:10 +0000, Socialism is for losers said:   
   >   
   >> On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 15:22:19 -0500, -hh   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 1/8/26 11:49, Socialism is for losers wrote:   
   >>>> On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 08:11:29 -0600, super70s   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2026-01-08 13:00:12 +0000, -hh said:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 1/8/26 05:25, Socialism is for losers wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 05:22:28 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D´Oliveiro   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 13:32:48 -0600, Ken wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> No mention of the fact that the dead person was trying to run over   
   >>>>>>>>> ICE agents??   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Notice the shot was from an oblique angle. That (as well as the video   
   >>>>>>>> itself) shows the shooter was not in the path of the vehicle.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Yet he clealy got hit.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Where does the TTP state that an officer should deliberately stand in   
   >>>>>> front of an operating vehicle?  Chapter & verse with cite, please.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Putting yourself in harm's way when the TTP doesn't call for that   
   >>>>>> doctrine is a standards violation...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> ...and escalation to try to cover for your mistake isn't justified.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> -hh   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> They're notorious for standing by the front quarter panel of a car, out   
   >>>>> of harm's way but close enough to claim they were "in fear of their   
   >>>>> lives" if they shoot someone. This is not the first time an incident   
   >>>>> like this has happened with them.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> She hit him and she got what she deserved.   
   >>>   
   >>> Barely, and that was despite how he deliberately stepped in front of a   
   >>> running vehicle.   
   >>>   
   >>> FWIW, Adam Cochran has said that he's spoken on background with two   
   >>> attorneys who have defended officer involved shootings.   
   >>>   
   >>> Both have always taken their cases to trial.   
   >>>   
   >>> After reviewing the events today, both said if it were their client   
   >>> they’d advise:   
   >>>   
   >>> - Seek a plea deal   
   >>> - Be willing to plead guilty to a lesser crime or a lower sentence   
   >>> - Accept anything that isn’t de jure LWOP (life with out parole)   
   >>>   
   >>> In other words, the guys who defend police officers shooting for a   
   >>> living, think this case is unwinnable.  They would try to defend his   
   >>> actions, they’d just try and lower the impact of the outcome.   
   >>>   
   >>> Their main sticking point were:   
   >>>   
   >>> - "I could argue shot number one and hope for an acquittal or a hung   
   >>> jury - but I can’t get there on shots 2 and 3"   
   >>>   
   >>> - "A jury will not get passed the turning of the wheels"   
   >>>   
   >>> - "Denying medics throws self defense out the window"   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> -hh   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> It will depend on the jury.   
   >   
   >Yeah a Minneapolis jury, not one in Alabammy. Good luck.   
      
   No...  Federal agents are immune from state and local prosecution when   
   acting on official business.   
      
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