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From: cadillac.jefferson@unc.edu
On 15 Nov 2025, Harlan Banks posted some
news:Cx9SQ.61211$fIia.57144@fx45.iad:
> On 11/15/2025 9:51 AM, Collectivism_Always_Fails wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2025 17:34:18 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Collectivism_Always_Fails wrote in
>>> news:07cghkp94blvhffuvo9c8fai844vnoq7g0@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2025 02:45:53 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Collectivism_Always_Fails wrote in
>>>>> news:flbfhkt2mnnsjqee0rpbc0ac3v229l2sbb@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Nov 2025 17:51:07 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Collectivism_Always_Fails wrote in
>>>>>>> news:j8mdhkhl9m3vparstr7v2ffitahdsrthqp@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Nov 2025 03:09:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Collectivism_Always_Fails wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:haechk50pib5g5k3pbjr6qhme99g1ph1kr@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 19:36:24 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Collectivism_Always_Fails wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:431chkh0n1f71oqvel9gcaeigi7skvhqvt@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 15:47:42 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collectivism_Always_Fails wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:2c8bhkt9cm419vpgco9h4rlb628om6a4ua@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 05:15:15 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collectivism_Always_Fails wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:m30ahkpndt8pgmsc08b69d7ujgangl3hk4@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 19:32:57 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collectivism_Always_Fails wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in news:iqi9hkpkukq75potk4opquvqrs88j2ea1q@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 17:37:03 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collectivism_Always_Fails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:qff8hk135sgmlqhhl5u6r4f3o5hlke2qc0@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 02:44:58 -0500,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collectivism_Always_Fails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 02:41:14 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collectivism_Always_Fails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:1e87hkl7oq56ef7671semkcqih6gnmncs0@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 17:54:44 -0000 (UTC),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Webbster wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A single farmer has to provide transportion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from, say,
>>>>>>>>>>> Mexico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to his field for harvest, and as soon as *his*
>>> crops
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harvested, he has to send the workers back to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mexico - those workers cannot just leave his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> farm and go to another farmer
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few miles down the road.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where did you come up with that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===========
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AI Overview
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights of H-2A Workers – National Agricultural
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Law Center
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For an H-2A visa, the employer is responsible for
>>>>>>> providing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transportation. This includes the cost of inbound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and outbound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between the worker's home country and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worksite, as
>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as daily transport between the employer-provided
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> housing and the job site. Employers must
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reimburse the worker for inbound
>>>>>>>>>>> costs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after they complete 50% of the contract, and must
>>> cover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outbound transportation upon completion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing there about a worker not being able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leave
>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> farmer and go to another farmer a few miles down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the road.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A quick read on your cite tells me that labor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contractors can
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the employers who pay the travel expenses. They
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring
>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H2-A workers and shop them out to various farmers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> needed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so indeed, the workers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go from "one farmer to another farmer a few miles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down the road."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how many Labor Contractors are there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how many, indeed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked you a question and you can't answer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not my job to educate you. If you need to know,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>> it
>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess you're too stupid to look into the issue, so I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The H-2A visa program allows U.S. employers to bring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> foreign agricultural workers to the United States to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perform
>>> temporary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or seasonal agricultural labor. While the program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provides a crucial source of labor for many agricultural
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operations, it also comes with
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex set of regulations that labor contractors must
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand and adhere to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://surety1.com/understanding-h-2a-labor-contractor-
>>>>>>> regulations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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