From: ron.sam{please-remove}@cox.net   
      
   "tim"  wrote in message   
   news:3FA77B66.D8AD929C@tiannsjhems.vf...   
   > rl wrote:   
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   > > That is the unfortunate reality, DN.   
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   > > Having worked three years with female convicts, I can tell you for a   
   fact   
   > > that kindness and gentility are, for the most part, wasted on them.   
   They   
   > > perceive such otherwise admirable traits as weaknesses to be exploited -   
   > > nothing more.   
   > >   
   > > Obviously, there are exceptions....but my advice is that you not hold   
   your   
   > > breath while you search for her.   
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   > It may be a fact that kindness and gentility is wasted, for the most part.   
   > But the question is why?   
      
   If you stumble upon that answer, make sure you patent it.  We've got a   
   bazillion PhD's in Sociology, Psycholgy, and Aberrant Behavior working on it   
   and they haven't figured it out yet.   
      
      
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   > Is it because inmates are, "for the most part", inherently bad, or is   
   > it because of how they are being treated.   
      
   Maybe it's because of the inherently bad way they treated their victims,   
   "for the most part", and that karma is just coming around for them.  Knew   
   one once that beat her 5 year old kid to death with an etch-a-sketch.  Maybe   
   if he was still alive you could ask him if Mommy only became bad after the   
   big mean guards started treating her poorly.   
      
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   > Our the laws say that, "The penitentiary system shall comprise   
   > treatment of prisoners the essential aim of which shall be their   
   > reformation and social rehabilitation."   
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   > But, for the most part, that is not the case - is it?   
      
   You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink, can you?  And   
   guess what else?  As a taxpayer, I'm willing to try and give these people a   
   little leg up - maybe teach them some differnt job and socialization   
   skills....but my wallet is not a bottomless pit.  As far as I'm concerned,   
   if they can't get their heads out of their asses after we make a decent   
   attempt to put them on the right track, then Oh well, ye gets what ye asked   
   fer.   
      
      
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   > I don't see how we will ever know the answer until we actually try   
   > treating imates with the same humanity that each one of use would want   
   > shown our children, if they were incarcerted away from society.   
      
   No problem.  Just let the Government know you're going to need them to start   
   shutting down all those other activities to pay for all this.   
      
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   > > "Neiswinger"  wrote in message   
   > > news:20031103214125.13031.00000167@mb-m14.aol.com...   
   > > > >Does that surprise you?   
   > > > >   
   > > > >You can assume 99% of anything posted by Stewie Conner, Vadik, D E M   
   I G   
   > > O   
   > > > >D, and a few other variations of the same person is nothing more than   
   a   
   > > > >bunch of Pro-Convicted Felon Bullshit.   
   > > > >   
   > > > >Now do you understand where your friend gets her ability to scam   
   people   
   > > > >unmercifully?  I think they actually teach a course on this to the   
   new   
   > > > >inmates at reception or something.   
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   > > > I will admit, I'm starting to face the sad reality that as with many   
   > > others,   
   > > > the stereotypes you hear about inmates are more true than not.  Female   
   > > inmates,   
   > > > anyway.   
   > > > I believe one thing they should do is somehow segregate the women   
   > > according to   
   > > > how long they've been in the system.  I think sometimes the   
   long-timers   
   > > sort of   
   > > > become some kind of twisted pseudo role models for the new people.   
   The   
   > > scemes   
   > > > & scams get passed along in the narrative form from mentor to   
   apprentices,   
   > > and   
   > > > so on.   
   > > > It's also becoming evident that giving her all the things she needs to   
   be   
   > > a   
   > > > good person does NOT make her one.  It's like that place has robbed   
   her of   
   > > her   
   > > > soul, if she ever had one.  She apparently just sees my kindness as my   
   > > > weakness.   
   > > > Once a scumbag, always a scumbag, I guess...   
   > > > DN   
   > > > Detroit   
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