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   Morphy's ghost to Critter   
   Re: Inmate Computer Technicians   
   08 Nov 03 15:17:38   
   
   From: ghost_of_morphy@theghostishere.com   
      
   Yep, conviction is definitely a black strike against you.  All the   
   more reason these women need vocational training.   
      
   On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 03:08:44 GMT, "Critter"  wrote:   
      
   >Thats great. Certifications which nobody cares about.   
   >   
   >Key word - "employment screening".   
   >   
   >If certifications mattered, then they would be doing background checks for   
   >certifications. I have a BS and I could wipe my ass with it for all the good   
   >it'll do me. You dont get ahead in the US by working your ass off every   
   >day - you get ahead by being the son of so-and-so, the daughter of   
   >whats-her-name, the brother of whats-his-face, or the buddy of a somebody.   
   >It is the result of putting everything up for sale or trade, including jobs.   
   >   
   >Jobs are treated like a commodity. It would be easier to find a gram of dope   
   >than a decent job. Go figure.   
   >   
   >   
   >> Read again, Critter.  These ladies are receiving certifications.   
   >   
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   >>   
   >> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 23:48:08 GMT, "Critter"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >> I think this is wonderful.  Anything, well, almost anything beats the   
   >day   
   >> >> in, day out monotony of prison life.  A change of scenery is great, and   
   >if   
   >> >> it helps them learn a skill and challenges them abit too, then that's   
   >also   
   >> >> great.   
   >> >   
   >> >   
   >> >It has only one functional purpose today - to keep inmates busy. The very   
   >> >idea that they will better themselves through gainful employment is a   
   >MYTH,   
   >> >little more than a FANTASY. There are many felons who will find jobs, but   
   >> >they WILL be bounced around from place to place like pingpong balls, and   
   >> >many more will simply not find jobs.   
   >> >   
   >> >Well, to rephrase, they will "find" plenty of jobs, but they will not   
   >> >actually get "hired" for any of them regardless of qualifications,   
   >abilities   
   >> >or potential.   
   >> >   
   >> >This is corporate policy, and this is law. These policies and attitudes   
   >have   
   >> >gradually crystallized over many many years of wars, unrest, riots,   
   >slavery,   
   >> >etc etc etc. This is probably the origin of many of the silly licensing   
   >> >requirements as well, such as chauffers licenses, barbers license,   
   >> >bartenders license, etc. As long as a license is required for these   
   >> >occupations, they can effectively prohibit you from owning your own   
   >> >business - forcing you into poverty and hopefully death (evidently).   
   >> >   
   >> >I think that it lends a lot of insight into a whole new dimension of   
   >> >historical attitudes, and how people in the US have practiced capitalism.   
   >> >There are really 2 sides to the coin. One the one hand you would like to   
   >> >become as wealthy as possible, but the flip side of the coin is that   
   >there   
   >> >is a tendency to try to drive others deeply into poverty out of spite.   
   >> >Economists have ignored this phenomena - but it is very real. There is a   
   >> >clear motivation to prevent ex-cons from ever working again. Economists   
   >are   
   >> >in DENIAL if they do not recognize this cruelty, and it's impact on the   
   >> >economy. Talk about going to college to get stupid.   
   >> >   
   >> >There are hundreds of things which economists look at to guage the health   
   >of   
   >> >the economy. Unemployment claims, profitability, productivity, consumer   
   >> >confidence, etc etc etc. But, I do not believe that anyone has ever   
   >> >recognized the phenomena of "employment deprivation" or "advancement   
   >> >repression" when practiced against millions of people. Certainly people   
   >have   
   >> >complained about it enough with respect to EEOC matters for minorities,   
   >> >women, etc, but they dont want to admit that it is an important or   
   >relevant   
   >> >metric in macroeconomics. I think that they need to stop lying to   
   >> >themselves.   
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