From: ron.sam{please-remove}@cox.net   
      
   Answer the question please, and I'll be more than happy to explore this area   
   with you.   
      
   But lets start with honesty and brass tax.   
      
   If you knew what you were doing was wrong.  If you knew that getting a job   
   after you got caught was going to be rough.  If you knew that doing what you   
   were doing had the possibility of changing your status in society forever in   
   a bad way - and knowing this, you went out and did whatever you did anyway -   
   explain for me exactly how and why any company anywhere should be obligated   
   to accommodate you now?  If you're the most skilled worker on the face of   
   the planet, and Company X doesn't hire you because of your status, the   
   retribution they get is when their competitor, Company Y does hire you and   
   realizes greater profit through your heightened skill level.  But that's the   
   risk/gain that X and Y should be free to take/realize on their own.   
      
   And if I own my own company, why the hell should I be subjected to laws that   
   force me to hire people I don't want to hire?  If I don't want to hire any   
   stinking Whiteys, that's my business.  And if the Whiteys catch onto this   
   and stop coming to my establishment, that's their business.  It's no   
   different than forcing bar owners to enforce "no smoking in public" rules in   
   their establishments.  If he wants to let people smoke in his bar, what   
   business is it of the stinking big brother government?   
      
   It just seems like we all bitch about the intrusive Government - until   
   something happens where we want the G to take action on our behalf....then   
   Big G is wonderful.   
      
   We're all stinking hypocrites.   
      
   "Critter"  wrote in message   
   news:USptb.203569$Tr4.591842@attbi_s03...   
   > Whether I even thought about it or not - I ask, what is going through the   
   > minds of human resouces people who categorically deny employment time   
   after   
   > time, knowing what that will lead to in their community ?   
   >   
   > I made one mistake, and they are making thousands ?   
   >   
   >   
   > "rl"  wrote in message   
   > news:7mitb.2$PJ6.0@okepread05...   
   > > Hey Lefty, I have a serious question for you.   
   > >   
   > > Maybe you are a different person today than you were when you committed   
   > your   
   > > crimes.  Maybe you're not.  Only you can say.   
   > >   
   > > But my question is this:   
   > > As you sat down working out the details of your crime, what the hell did   
   > you   
   > > think was going to be the reaction most employers were going to have   
   > toward   
   > > you if you ever got caught?  Did you really think they were going to   
   > welcome   
   > > you with open arms?  When some people with college degrees can't even   
   find   
   > > work today?   
   > >   
   > > Where the hell was your common sense?   
   > >   
   > > What were you thinking about?   
   > >   
   > > And please don't tell me you never thought you'd get caught.  In   
   reality,   
   > > you seem a reasonably intelligent guy, so you knew there was at least a   
   > > chance no matter how good your plan.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > Maybe today you are a different person   
   > > "Critter"  wrote in message   
   > > news:47Zsb.198684$e01.730781@attbi_s02...   
   > > >     When I learned that Snap-On was a member of WMC, a lobby in   
   Madison   
   > > > which supports AB 353, my heart was truly saddened. To think that   
   > Snap-On   
   > > > would support a bill that would close it's doors permanently to all   
   > felons   
   > > > is discouraging and depressing to say the very least.   
   > > >   
   > > >     Snap-On tools are so widely used that it is very probably that %40   
   > to   
   > > > %60 of their customers are felons and ex-cons, or others who are   
   closely   
   > > > affected by prison through family ties etc. It is extremely   
   discouraging   
   > > to   
   > > > think that Snap-On would close it's doors to all felons. It is my   
   > sincere   
   > > > hope that this is not the case. Snap-On could benefit enormously from   
   > the   
   > > > loyalty of felons who are truly grateful for a job.   
   > > >   
   > > >     It is already widely known that doors are slammed tightly shut   
   when   
   > it   
   > > > comes to employment of felons. It is nearly impossible for a felon to   
   > find   
   > > a   
   > > > job in Milwaukee, and yet there are many, many jobs available. What   
   will   
   > > > this do to our economy and the need for hand tools to have a huge   
   class   
   > of   
   > > > unemployed ghetto dwellers ?   
   > > >   
   > > >     I call upon Snap-On to recall the work ethic that Milwaukee is   
   > famous   
   > > > for, to understand that the purpose of industry has always been   
   greater   
   > > than   
   > > > simply makling money - but also educating people in that ethic and   
   > > refining   
   > > > the human spirit through work. I call upon Snap-On Corp to answer that   
   > > > higher purpose and to keep their doors open to former felons who would   
   > > > reform themselves.   
   > > >   
   > > >     Nobody has sued you for being denied employment due to a criminal   
   > > > record, despite the FEA. No harm has come to you from this law, but   
   how   
   > > much   
   > > > harm has come to the community from felons remaining unemployed ?   
   > > >   
   > > >   
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