From: ghost_of_morphy@killfile.com   
      
   On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:18:45 GMT, "D E M I    G O D  " <"D E M I    G   
   O D  "@SHAW.CA> wrote:   
      
   >Stewart Connor wrote:   
   >   
   >>>You STILL haven't answered the basic question.  If a person commits   
   >>>murder, what consequences should they face.  Since you don't think   
   >>>prison is the place they should be, what would you do with them?  How   
   >>>would you "cure" their sickness?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> At least you are beginning to almost ask the right questions.  Keep working   
   at   
   >> it Deb. Becoming a mature person takes work. (I am not putting you down I am   
   >> doing work to reach my true God-given state as well... if you dont   
   understand   
   >> why all the work is worth it, you haven't begun to understand reality, that   
   is   
   >> it is only God's reality that is real...not the sick world or the sick   
   people   
   >> in it___as long as we dont fully embrace this then we are the sick people in   
   >> the sick world --- thus not real and destined to suffer ... keep thinking   
   about   
   >> it Deb,  I see that you have changed your tune just a little bit,  there is   
   a   
   >> sickness and it goes right to the highest levels of american government,   
   how do   
   >> we change it for the better.  One thing is that politicians have a   
   tradition of   
   >> using fear to manipulate voters.  This must be continually be recognized...   
   In   
   >> God's world there is no fear.)   
   >> By the way, the reason I respect Vadik is that I see some of these   
   qualities in   
   >> him.  He believes in ideals. He states religion is the opiate of the masses   
   and   
   >> in fact blindly following religion is just as bad as following a corrupt   
   >> politician. But Vadik has spiritual ideals(though he talks trash like a   
   super   
   >> pimp) The UN Declaration of Human Rights  does not come from wrong headed   
   >> thinking.   
   >> And Vadik recognizes and tries to repeat over and over the crimes going on   
   in   
   >> this country.  This is just the method the crooks trying to cover there   
   crimes   
   >> use, repeating over and over again that they are not crooks.(Remeber Nixon   
   >> famous line, "I am not a crook")---This is the brainwash technique used over   
   >> and over again.  The media tells you lies over and over again and soon the   
   less   
   >> intelligent people become putty in the hands of the corrupt politicians. ...   
   >> FIGHT BACK!   
   >   
   >Stew, although you're right about Debbie's beginning to train her   
   >mind to work, you may be wrong in your optimism toward her   
   >becoming mature enough soon. In order for her to be able to   
   >understand basic the philosophy behind "crime and punishment" she   
   >should get some knowledge about Human Rights and gain experience   
   >in operations of government's sinecures. But even then she'll   
   >need to LEARN about compassion and respect for others' rights.   
      
   ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!  (hands dummydog a nickel for using his invention   
   and claim to fame once again.)  People who KNOW about compassion and   
   respect for others' rights show it in their words and actions.  Unitl   
   you can walk the walk, don't bother talking the talk.   
      
   >And she does not sound like the type who is able to endure the   
   >process of going through those stages...   
   >   
   >Do you really think that she will find a room in her mind for a   
   >sympathy toward the victims of the incarceration industry and be   
   >able to comprehend the reasons for your position?   
   >   
   >   
   >   
      
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