XPost: alt.activism.death-penalty, talk.politics, alt.law-enforcement   
   XPost: alt.true-crime   
   From: Barking@The.Moon   
      
   > > If it is okay to murder a murderer, then it is okay to murder.   
   >   
   > Bullshit.   
   >   
   > First, let's state the definition of "Murder".   
   >   
   > mur·der: (mûr'dr): noun: The unlawful killing of one human by another,   
   > especially with premeditated malice.   
   >   
   > So, what are some situations, in which someone is killed, where this   
   > definition does not apply.   
   >   
   > Self Defense: It's not unlawful to defend yourself with deadly force,   
   > nor is  there premeditated malice.  Does not constitute Murder.   
      
   This can be prosecuted. Do not be so naive to think that you may kill in   
   self defense. I knew a guy who got life in prison for it.   
      
   > War: Being a soldier is not against the law.  And there is no   
   > premeditation during battle.  Does not constitute Murder.   
      
   This is definately murder. This is wholesale, industrialized murder, and the   
   worst part about this type of murder is that they have convinced people like   
   you that it is like soccer, football or rugby. It is not.   
      
   > Automobile Accident:  Does not intel premeditation. Does not   
   > constitute Murder.  Although if it is due to gross negligence one   
   > could be charged with Reckless Indangerment or Involuntary Homicide.   
   >   
   > Lawful Execution: Is not against the law.  May or may not constitute   
   > premeditated malice. Does not constitute Murder.   
      
   It is definately killing, some people think that it is always murder, but   
   certainly it is murder in some cases. There are other cases, like Jeffrey   
   Dahmer, where murder is used to execute the prisoner because the state does   
   not have the death penalty. The two processes are therefore interchangeable,   
   and you can see quite cleartly that the STATE is GUILTY of MURDER  as well.   
      
   > Personally I think   
   > it's more along the line of preservation of the species.  Getting rid   
   > of the dangerous element   
      
   Hilarious. You are raving mad.   
      
      
   > > Hence we still have war and murder in the world,   
   >   
   > We have always had war and murder, we always will.  It is the natural   
   > order of things.  Concepts like "Peace" and "Benevolence" are nice   
   > ideas, but just that.  For either to work you'd have to have 100%   
   > participation by every living thing on the planet. (Yeah, go ahead, go   
   > pet the hungry lion while telling it how peaceful your intentions   
   > are).   
   >   
   > > and would do better   
   > > to listen to Jesus who told us to "love our enemies."*   
   >   
   > Of course it'd be better, but not everybody believes in the same   
   > religion, the same God, the same Jesus.  Some don't believe in   
   > religion at all.  You'll never be able to change this.   
   >   
   > > (because neither murder,  nor murder murder - our new term for the   
   > > death "penalty" is okay)   
   >   
   > So you're making up your own language to make something "sound" evil?   
   > How liberal of you.   
   >   
   > [rest snipped due to stupidity]   
   >   
   > Yol Bolsum,   
   > Grendel.   
   >   
   > "Life IS pain, Princess.  Anyone who says differently is selling   
   > something."   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)