XPost: alt.activism.death-penalty, talk.politics, alt.law-enforcement   
   XPost: alt.true-crime   
   From: swayser@optonline.net   
      
   Critter wrote:   
    > "Bill, The Avender"  wrote in message   
    > news:3fccb320.130559984@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...   
    >   
    >> In alt.true-crime on Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:04:56 GMT, "Critter"   
    >>  wrote:   
    >>   
    >>   
    >>>>> Both life in prison without parole, and the death penalty are   
    >>>>> vile punishments.  Everyone should be eligible for parole   
    >>>>> after ten years, but parole boards should consider the nature   
    >>>>> of the crimes comitted, as well as prison record and   
    >>>>> interviews, and murderers paroled after 10 years would be few   
    >>>>> and far between, if any at all.   
    >>>>   
    >>>> I suppose if you were the parent of 5 children (including a mix   
    >>>> of infants, toddlers, juveniles & adolescents) and someone   
    >>>> abducted them all, subsequently raped them, skinned them alive,   
    >>>> performed "surgery" on them without anesthesia and posted   
    >>>> pictures of their humiliation where billions of people could   
    >>>> see them, 10 years would seem fair to you.  If this is true and   
    >>>> you haven't already done so, may you never have children.   
    >>>   
    >>>   
    >>> Quit babbling incoherently. No-one has ever committed such a   
    >>> crime in   
    >>   
    > recent   
    >   
    >>> years, except for various governments. Most murders in the US are   
    >>> crimes   
    >>   
    > of   
    >   
    >>> passion, or some other financial dispute or something like that.   
    >>> Most   
    >>   
    > people   
    >   
    >>> who are murdered are killed by someone who knew them closely.   
    >>>   
    >>> Lets not be irrational about it.   
    >>   
    >> Who's being irrational?  The original post didn't say "10 years   
    >> only for the most common crimes", it said to eliminate LWOP and the   
    >> DP for _all_ criminals.  That means that if anyone were to do what   
    >> I said, which it _does_ happen from time to time, 10 years would   
    >> simply have to be a proper, just punishment.  What part of that is   
    >> inaccurate or irrelevant?   
    >   
    >   
    >   
    > 10 years is very light for murder. I will not argue that. But I also   
    > think that the 3 strikes laws can be very misapplied.   
    >   
   That I can agree with. The recent case of a California man being nailed   
   for shoplifting is a perfect example. The three strike rule should only   
   be applied in class a or b felonies.   
      
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