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   XPost: talk.philosophy.humanism   
   From: gowch@SPAMTHEENOThotmail.com   
      
   On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:41:52 GMT, "Daniel T."   
    wrote:   
      
   [snip]   
      
   ==>If a mother is allowed to abort or not, without the father's input, then   
   ==>the father should be allowed to force the mother to abort, even if she   
   ==>doesn't want to.   
      
    If you believe that, then you must also believe that a   
    woman who does not desire to have any -- or additional   
    -- children, should be allowed to force her husband or   
    lover to have a vasectomy, even if he doesn't want to.   
      
    If she doesn't have sovereignty over her own body,   
    why should he?   
      
   ==>Using your logic above, a man could never be forced to pay child   
   ==>support. After all what he does with his body (or labor in this case) is   
   ==>his business as well isn't it?   
      
    Don't be absurd. One's labour is not the same   
    as one's body.   
      
    If a man wants to avoid creating a child he may   
    be required to support, all he need do is   
    to sheathe one small appendage of his body in latex   
    when engaging in sex, and he'll never have   
    to worry about it.   
      
    What's wrong with you anti-choice types,   
    anyway? Do you really want every horny teenage   
    kid's mistake to result in the creation of one more   
    unwanted, unloved human being? Don't we have   
    enough of those already?   
      
    Human life is cheap. There are six billion homo   
    sapiens out there, and many of them will starve   
    to death or die of AIDS before the year is out.   
      
    Why don't you folks who are so loudly concerned about   
    the preservation of life devote your energies to   
    trying to see that life is tolerable for the living,   
    instead of attempting to force your personal morality   
    on those who don't happen to share it?   
      
      
      
   --   
   Better an abortion clinic on every streetcorner   
   than the birth of one more unwanted child.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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