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   Message 2,597 of 3,649   
   Chris to Grendel   
   Re: The death penalty legitimizes murder   
   02 Dec 03 22:40:51   
   
   XPost: alt.activism.death-penalty, talk.politics, alt.law-enforcement   
   XPost: alt.true-crime   
   From: rrufiange@cfl.rr.com   
      
   "Grendel"  wrote in message   
   news:695b34f9.0311290558.8423876@posting.google.com...   
   > Ever been in war?  Ever even been in the military?  Or did the lack of   
   > balls and that yellow streak down your back keep you from service?  Or   
   > are you one of the 'enlightened' few who thinks that everyone can   
   > 'just get alone'?   
      
   Shut up.  I don't care how many battles a citizen has fought in, that gives   
   no right to belittle another human being for not having, or taking, the same   
   opportunity.   
      
   If it wasn't for those citizens who didn't fight, who would have been left   
   to manufacture your rifle's ammunition, your plane's fuel, your nice   
   insulated flightsuit to keep you warm travelling at mach speeds in your   
   fighter?  Patriotism is one thing, but holding your military service as a   
   bludgeon for someone who didn't choose to serve makes me sick.   
      
   Your comments make me sick, understand?   
      
   > Believe me, when your shivering your nuts off in the ass end of a   
   > Stratopig you have plenty of time to think about why you're doing it.   
   > I sure as hell wasn't there for the financial oportunities.   
      
   Reasons are reasons, whatever they may be.   
      
   > My point is that there has ALWAY been conflict, there always WILL be   
   > conflict.  You can't change this as long as there is ONE individual   
   > who want's that which is not his.  "Peace" is just an agreement   
   > between multiple entities (be it individuals, cities, states or   
   > nations) and is enforced by the winner of the last conflict.  Anytime   
   > anyone of these entities decides it doesn't want to play by the rules   
   > any longer and inflict it's will upon the rest you get conflict(riots,   
   > mobs or war).  This is a fact of life, you can't change it in any way.   
   >  Deal with it.   
      
   Conflict is a fact of reality, but it is not the end all and be all of   
   existence.   
   Get your stupid jarhead out of your ass, and listen to yourself.   
      
   The only people who need conflict are warriors, defense contractors, and   
   vermin   
   politicians who use conflict to further their own goals.   
      
   > As far as my opinions on the current conflict:  I think this is a war   
   > that should have started long ago.  Under Klinton our citizens and   
   > service men were attacked numerous times and nothing was done.  How   
   > many Americans have to die before you feel we are 'justified' in   
   > taking action?  We went after Al-Quida and they ain't given us much   
   > problem since.  And there is a provable link of ol' Sadam harboring   
   > terrorist of that organization.  Sure, most of the terrorist are now   
   > striking back at our soldiers in Iraq, but at least they seem to be to   
   > busy over there to worry about over here.  That may change, but I'd   
   > rather keep them on the run than give them free riegn as you would   
   > have.   
      
   The President wouldn't have had to get people to lie for him about including   
   the al Qaeda link in that address he gave, if there was a provable link.   
      
   Also of note, since they all admit there was no provable link, you're   
   calling your President, as well as your commander-in-chief, a liar.   
      
   > "Never underestimate the power of Stupid People in large numbers."   
      
   Yeah, stupid jarheads tend to make stupid comments, in large numbers.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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