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   From: rrufiange@cfl.rr.com   
      
   "David V."  wrote in message   
   news:y6ydnew7R6B27FCiRVn-gg@sti.net...   
   > Focus.... the word in question is 'ideals'. Try to use that   
   > word in a sentence that has to do with your fallacious   
   > statement above.   
      
   Sir, if what you said were true death row inmates wouldn't be allowing   
   their lawyers to file appeal after appeal to stop their executions   
   from going forward. Do you see most of these men volunteering to be   
   executed rather than spending the rest of their life in prison?   
   Respectfully, you're flat out wrong here. When we don't execute those   
   who have willfully and premeditatedly taken the life of another, as a   
   society we make a statement that we value the murderer's life more   
   than that of his/her victim[s].   
      
   Cordially, Marie   
      
   That block of text speaks for itself.  It represents an "ideal", that we   
   should punish people according to their deeds, lest we set a bad example for   
   others who commit said deeds, when we fail to punish some of them   
   accordingly.   
      
   Now, you can argue that that is not a "good" ideal, for yourself, but you   
   cannot argue that it is not an ideal, because it clearly is.   
      
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