XPost: talk.politics, alt.law-enforcement, alt.true-crime   
   XPost: talk.philosophy.humanism   
   From: swayser@optonline.net   
      
   David V. wrote:   
      
   > Don Swayser wrote:   
   >   
   >> David V. wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Don Swayser wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> .... Contrary to your contention the deasth[sic]   
   >>>> penalty is a deterent[sic] to violence of the most   
   >>>> extreme form, murder. The death penalty wasn't   
   >>>> applied, until recent years, since the mid-seventies.   
   >>>> The murder rate rose during those years. Since the   
   >>>> death penalty is again being pronounced the murder   
   >>>> rate has declined. It is now down to pre-ban rates.   
   >>>> Those are the facts....   
   >>>   
   >>> Those may be "facts" but it is a fallacy to assume that   
   >>> the removal of the death penalty caused a rise in the   
   >>> murder rate. Texas has been offing people for a long   
   >>> time and their death row is still packed. Those that   
   >>> claim that capital punishment is a deterrent know   
   >>> nothing about, and aren't interested in, studying criminal behavior.   
   >>> They just want revenge.   
   >>   
   >> Then you believe that the rise and fall of the murder   
   >> rate which coincides with the abolition and reinstatement   
   >> of the death penalty is a coincidence?   
   >   
   > Yes. There is nothing to prove they are connected.   
   >   
   Just like there's nothing to prove that poverty and economic depressions   
   are related, huh? And maybe a bullet hole through the heart and death   
   isn't "proven". After all the guy could have died of a massive coronary   
   a thousandth of a second before the bullet struck. Let's see you prove   
   they're not connected.   
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   If you want to be free, there is but one way; it is to guarantee an   
   equally full measure of liberty to all your neighbors. There is no other.   
   Carl Schurz (1829-1906)   
      
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