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   Don Swayser wrote:   
   > David V. wrote:   
   >   
   >> Don Swayser wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> David V. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Don Swayser wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> .... Contrary to your contention the deasth[sic]   
   >>>>> penalty is a deterent[sic] to violence of the   
   >>>>> most extreme form, murder. The death penalty   
   >>>>> wasn't applied, until recent years, since the   
   >>>>> mid-seventies. The murder rate rose during those   
   >>>>> years. Since the death penalty is again being   
   >>>>> pronounced the murder rate has declined. It is   
   >>>>> now down to pre-ban rates. Those are the   
   >>>>> facts....   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Those may be "facts" but it is a fallacy to assume   
   >>>> that the removal of the death penalty caused a rise   
   >>>> in the murder rate. Texas has been offing people   
   >>>> for a long time and their death row is still   
   >>>> packed. Those that claim that capital punishment is   
   >>>> a deterrent know nothing about, and aren't   
   >>>> interested in, studying criminal behavior. They   
   >>>> just want revenge.   
   >>>   
   >>> Then you believe that the rise and fall of the murder   
   >>> rate which coincides with the abolition and   
   >>> reinstatement of the death penalty is a coincidence?   
   >>   
   >> Yes. There is nothing to prove they are connected.   
   >>   
   > Just like there's nothing to prove that poverty and   
   > economic depressions are related...   
      
   No. You just can't pull two statistics out of the air and   
   claim they are related.   
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