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   XPost: talk.philosophy.humanism   
   From: gowch@SPAMTHEENOThotmail.com   
      
   On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:20:27 GMT,  wrote:   
      
   IG sig:   
   ==>"Better an abortion clinic on every streetcorner   
   ==>than the birth of one more unwanted child."   
      
   ==>Surely you don't mean this.   
      
   		Surely I do.   
      
   ==> The abortion clinincs would abort many more very   
   ==>late term fetuses than one!   
      
   		Fine with me.  AFAIC, a fetus is worthless until   
   		the moment it breathes air on its own -- at which   
   		time it becomes a *person.*   
      
   		The lives of persons should be protected at all   
   		costs.  A fetus is a growth inside a woman that   
   		exists at her pleasure until birth.   
      
   ==> I am an atheist, but I have much trouble with   
   ==>very late term abortions.   
      
   		I'm also an atheist, and so-called late-term abortions   
   		don't bother me at all.  Human life, as I've said, is   
   		cheap in a world with six billion people, many of   
   		whom won't live out the year due to disease or   
   		the hostility of their fellow humans.   
      
   		Note that we don't seem to mind one whit, destroying   
   		human life in great quantities through war, mass   
   		starvations, "legal" executions, tobacco sales (and   
   		yes, I smoke), the production of murderously fast and   
   		unsafe cars, the denial of medical services to the   
   		poor, etc.  For some reason, though, some of us get   
   		all moist and weepy at the thought of ending the   
   		brief, insensate existence of a proto human who no   
   		one wants to care for or nurture.   
      
   		It is unwanted children who grow up to fill our   
   		prisons and mental hospitals, who can be seen   
   		sleeping on subway grates and in alleyways.   
   		It is unwanted children who grow up to be inadequate   
   		adults who swell the welfare rolls, who seek solace   
   		in addiction to dangerous drugs, who often endure   
   		wretched lives many of us would consider not worth   
   		living.   
      
   		If every child could be born to a parent -- or, better   
   		still, parents -- who anticipates his or her arrival   
   		with joy and the determination to raise, nurture and   
   		love him or her, many of society's most severe   
   		problems would vanish in time.   
      
   		Against this backdrop, the idea that one iota of   
   		effort should be expended to prevent the   
   		termination of unwanted human life, even in a   
   		so-called "late-term abortion," is nothing   
   		less than an abomination.   
      
   		That's what it says here, anyway.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)