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   Message 2,892 of 3,649   
   Ivan Gowch to All   
   Re: Abortion   
   09 Dec 03 14:28:56   
   
   XPost: talk.politics, alt.law-enforcement, alt.true-crime   
   XPost: talk.philosophy.humanism   
   From: gowch@SPAMTHEENOThotmail.com   
      
   On 9 Dec 2003 03:44:34 -0800, bobcrowley@optusnet.com.au (Bob Crowley)   
   wrote:   
      
   ==>> ==>The above quotation from you shows how flawed your thinking is.   
   ==>> ==>Abortion is, by definition, an alternative form of birth control.   
   ==>> ==>It doesn't matter what the women regard it as. It is a form of birth   
   ==>> ==>control!   
      
   IG:   
   ==>> 		And birth control, you'll remember,   
   ==>> 		is perfectly legal.   
   ==>>   
   ==>> 		And for the same reason.   
      
   ==>Genocide is a form of birth control   
      
   		Ha!  Once again, an anti-choice fanatic proves that   
   		these folks can't conduct an *honest* discussion to   
   		save their lives.   
      
   		No, genocide is not "birth control."  Genocide kills   
   		persons.  Fetuses are not persons.   
      
   		Thanks for demonstrating once again the pitiful   
   		paucity of logical ammunition in the anti-choice   
   		arsenal.   
      
   [snip]   
      
   ==>Forced sterilisation is a form of birth control   
      
   		Yes, it is.  And since it's "forced," it doesn't seem   
   		at all related to women's voluntary abortions.   
   		So your point is. . . ?   
      
   ==>Killing unborn children is not a moral form of birth control   
      
   		Got a surprise for you, Bob.  You don't get to   
   		decide for other people what is, or is not,   
   		moral.   
      
   [snip]   
      
   ==>I suspect God regards it as murder, and judges it accordingly.   
      
   		It's interesting to note that if   
   		"god," as you say, considers abortion to be   
   		murder, still this omnipotent, all-seeing   
   		Ruler of the Universe doesn't do a single   
   		damn thing to stop it, when stopping it   
   		would be so easy for "Him."   
   		Perhaps you're wrong, eh?  Perhaps "god"   
   		sees nothing wrong with abortion whatsoever.   
   		You have to admit, there's rather more evidence   
   		for that possibility than for the alternative.   
      
   		In any case, when you have any more solid indications   
   		than your suspicions about what "god" thinks   
   		about this or that, let us know, willya?   
      
   		Thankee.   
      
      
      
      
   --   
   Better an abortion clinic on every streetcorner   
   than the birth of one more unwanted child.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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