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   Philip Mathews to Seneca   
   Re: Ko$her for Killers in Florida Prison   
   10 Dec 03 18:12:24   
   
   XPost: alt.revisionism, soc.culture.jewish, alt.conspiracy   
   XPost: alt.law-enforcement   
   From: philipmathews@comcast.net   
      
   "Seneca"  wrote in message   
   news:MaHBb.4686$ir6.43@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...   
   >   
   > "Philip Mathews"  wrote in message   
   > news:c6bd4de7.0312091107.863a152@posting.google.com...   
   > > "Seneca"  wrote in message   
   > news:...   
   > >   
   > > > "Steven Mock"  wrote in message   
   > > > news:Xns944BF365B5D34smocknizkororg@140.99.99.130...   
   > > > > "Seneca"  wrote in   
   > > > > news:K04Bb.4366$MO7.539@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > My witch hazel is kosher. (How the hell can witch hazel be   
   kosher?)   
   > My   
   > > > > > Joy dishwashing liquid is kosher. (What?!) My Ajax cleanser is   
   > kosher.   
   > > > > > (Oy, vey.) All these items, and thousands more I'm sure, carry the   
   > > > > > little symbols showing that some rabbinical organization or other   
   > has   
   > > > > > skimmed its share off the manufacturer's profit margin.   
   > >   
   > > > > If that's all it meant then why would manufacturers do it?   
   > >   
   > > > Why indeed, Steven? Why indeed?   
   > >   
   > > Well, we could assume that business people have a good reason, or we   
   > > could think like the Jew hater Seneca, and make up some nefarious   
   > > scheme.   
      
   > Enquiring how witch hazel, dishwashing liquid, etc. can be kosher makes me   
   a   
   > Jew hater? That does not compute, Philthy.   
      
   Why should it, since no one claimed it.   
      
   But you are a Jew hater.   
      
   > > > > Do they simply   
   > > > > like giving money to "rabbinical organizations"?  Or do they get   
   > something   
   > > > > in return?   
   > >   
   > > > Good questions. I would like to know too.   
   > >   
   > > And would you like to know why businesses give money to consultants,   
   > > design firms, accountants, etc.,   
      
   > Oh. Rabbis serve these businesses in ways similar to those of consultants,   
   > design firms, accountants, etc.?   
      
   Obviously. They are hired to perform a service for which they earn a fee.   
      
   Exactly the same.   
      
   So we can expect that you will turn your skepticism toward these other kinds   
   of service arrangements, correct? Or is it only Jewish services you care   
   about?   
      
   > > or is your curiosity only with things   
   > > which involves Jews?   
      
   > I have curiosity about many things, Philthy.   
      
   Well, then let's hear it about other service firms, "Seneca".   
      
   > > > Another good question is, How can things like witch hazel, kitchen   
   > cleansers   
   > > > and dishwashing liquids be kosher? My dictionary says kosher means   
   > > > "conforming to dietary laws; ritually pure." That has always been my   
   > > > understanding as well. Can you explain to me how these non-dietary   
   > things   
   > > > (and presumably many others) can be kosher?   
   > >   
   > > They come into contact with items which are in contact with food.   
      
   > Witch hazel does? I don't think so.   
      
   Witch hazel can be consumed.   
      
   > > > What this *appears* to be is a device for squeezing money out of   
   > > > manufacturers for Jewish interests and causes, completely unrelated to   
   > the   
   > > > product.   
   > >   
   > > Really! Now isn't that theory a surprise, coming from "Seneca"!   
      
   > > All these gullible business people are unknowingly squeezed by these   
   > > Jews, and it takes someone like "Seneca" to figure it out.   
      
   > Who said "unknowingly"?   
      
   Ah, they allow themselves to be squeezed!   
      
   Let's see, thousands of companies produce 90,000 Kosher products in almost   
   10,000 plants across the country because they are knowinly squeezed. Sure   
   "Seneca".   
      
   >I presume the people making those decisions are   
   > doing so consciously. What the reasons are, exactly, is what I'm curious   
   > about.   
      
   Well, if you don't know what the reasons are, then your claim that they are   
   squeezed can be attributed to your desire to malign Jews.   
      
   > > >Why manufacturers would go along with this is still the most   
   > > > interesting question.   
      
   > > Most intelligent people would consider that question so obvious as to   
   > > be of little interest. But to a Jew hater, anything Jewish is   
   > > interesting.   
      
   > By the same principle, I suppose, anyone who hates broccoli must be   
   > interested in all things related to broccoli. Your logical processes are   
   > wonderful to behold, Philthy.   
      
   Mine?   
      
   Look at the assault on logic you just engaged in. Tell us how broccoli is   
   like Jews, eh "Seneca"?   
      
   > > >Presumably they either believe they are getting   
   > > > something in return for paying the "kosher tax" or that they will be   
   > hurt in   
   > > > some way if they do not.   
   > >   
   > > And now the Jew hater utters the usual inanity, calling a fee a tax,   
   > > as if it  differs from the hundreds of others fees businesses pay for   
   > > services all the time.   
      
   > I think this "fee" is *substantially* different "from the hundreds of   
   others   
   > fees businesses pay for services all the time."   
      
   But you are wrong. Which is why you haven't explained how it is different.   
      
   > Do Catholic organizations exact any similar, comparable or analogous fee   
   > from businesses?   
      
   What service do Catholic organizations perform for businesses?   
      
    Muslim? Protestant? Buddhist? HIndu? Zoroastrian?   
      
   What services do these religions perform for businesses?   
      
   >Any other   
   >  clerical or religious-affiliated organizations at all?   
      
   What services do they perform for businesses?   
      
   > Where are *their* little symbols on my containers of Ajax, Joy or witch   
   > hazel?   
      
   Symbols of what?   
      
   So you see, you don't have the first clue about Kosher certification, and   
   yet you are prepared to mouth off such a string of imbecilities as would   
   embarrass someone with the courage to post under their own name.   
      
   --   
   Philip Mathews   
      
   "Mankind have a great aversion to intellectual labor; but even supposing   
   knowledge to be easily attainable, more people would be content to be   
   ignorant than would take even a little trouble to acquire it."   
      
   Samuel Johnson   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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