XPost: alt.revisionism, soc.culture.jewish, alt.conspiracy   
   XPost: alt.law-enforcement   
   From: philipmathews@comcast.net   
      
   "Seneca" wrote in message   
   news:2fLBb.39739$KR2.12877@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...   
   >   
   > "Philip Mathews" wrote in message   
   > news:cmJBb.78293$_M.387563@attbi_s54...   
   > >   
   > > "Seneca" wrote in message   
   > > news:MaHBb.4686$ir6.43@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...   
   > [ . . . ]   
   > > > > > > Do they simply   
   > > > > > > like giving money to "rabbinical organizations"? Or do they get   
   > > > something   
   > > > > > > in return?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > Good questions. I would like to know too.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > And would you like to know why businesses give money to consultants,   
   > > > > design firms, accountants, etc.,   
   > >   
   > > > Oh. Rabbis serve these businesses in ways similar to those of   
   > consultants,   
   > > > design firms, accountants, etc.?   
   > >   
   > > Obviously. They are hired to perform a service for which they earn a   
   fee.   
      
   > This "service" appears to be one for which the need, not even perceived   
   half   
   > a century ago, is now increasing at an exponential rate:   
      
   So what?   
      
   And it is clearly a service, not a "service".   
      
   Unless you'd like to actually make an argument otherwise.   
      
   [snip]   
      
   > > Exactly the same.   
   > >   
   > > So we can expect that you will turn your skepticism toward these other   
   > kinds   
   > > of service arrangements, correct? Or is it only Jewish services you care   
   > > about?   
   > >   
   > > > > or is your curiosity only with things   
   > > > > which involves Jews?   
   > >   
   > > > I have curiosity about many things, Philthy.   
   > >   
   > > Well, then let's hear it about other service firms, "Seneca".   
      
   > What newsgroup is this, Philthy?   
      
   Not alt.Kosher certification.   
      
   What would you say that indicates?   
      
   [snip]   
      
   > > > > > Another good question is, How can things like witch hazel, kitchen   
   > > > cleansers   
   > > > > > and dishwashing liquids be kosher? My dictionary says kosher means   
   > > > > > "conforming to dietary laws; ritually pure." That has always been   
   my   
   > > > > > understanding as well. Can you explain to me how these non-dietary   
   > > > things   
   > > > > > (and presumably many others) can be kosher?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > They come into contact with items which are in contact with food.   
   > >   
   > > > Witch hazel does? I don't think so.   
   > >   
   > > Witch hazel can be consumed.   
      
   > So can Joy and Ajax, I suppose.   
      
   No. But what is your point? Do you attach some special significance to the   
   fact that you are too ignorant of Kosher certification to figure out why a   
   manufacturer would seek it?   
      
      
   > > > > > What this *appears* to be is a device for squeezing money out of   
   > > > > > manufacturers for Jewish interests and causes, completely   
   unrelated   
   > to   
   > > > the   
   > > > > > product.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Really! Now isn't that theory a surprise, coming from "Seneca"!   
   > >   
   > > > > All these gullible business people are unknowingly squeezed by these   
   > > > > Jews, and it takes someone like "Seneca" to figure it out.   
   > >   
   > > > Who said "unknowingly"?   
      
   > > Ah, they allow themselves to be squeezed!   
   > >   
   > > Let's see, thousands of companies produce 90,000 Kosher products in   
   almost   
   > > 10,000 plants across the country because they are knowinly squeezed.   
   Sure   
   > > "Seneca".   
      
   > Why, does this amaze you?   
      
   It would amaze any sane person.   
      
   > Jesse Jackson does this sort of thing all the time,   
      
   No he doesn't. There is nothing about Kosher certification that has any   
   relationship to what Jesse Jackson does.   
      
   > > >I presume the people making those decisions are   
   > > > doing so consciously. What the reasons are, exactly, is what I'm   
   curious   
   > > > about.   
      
   > > Well, if you don't know what the reasons are, then your claim that they   
   > are   
   > > squeezed can be attributed to your desire to malign Jews.   
      
   > In fact, you could even "attribute to [my] desire to malign Jews" my   
   > noticing that today is Wednesday.   
      
   No, because Wednesday as a day has nothing to do with Jews, but Kosher   
   certification does.   
      
   Is this an example of your exalted abilities at logic?   
      
   [snip]   
      
   > >   
   > > > > >Why manufacturers would go along with this is still the most   
   > > > > > interesting question.   
   > >   
   > > > > Most intelligent people would consider that question so obvious as   
   to   
   > > > > be of little interest. But to a Jew hater, anything Jewish is   
   > > > > interesting.   
   > >   
   > > > By the same principle, I suppose, anyone who hates broccoli must be   
   > > > interested in all things related to broccoli. Your logical processes   
   are   
   > > > wonderful to behold, Philthy.   
   > >   
   > > Mine?   
   > >   
   > > Look at the assault on logic you just engaged in. Tell us how broccoli   
   is   
   > > like Jews, eh "Seneca"?   
      
   > [ . . . ]   
      
   > Review your principle, Philthy: "But to a [X] hater, anything [X] is   
   > interesting." It's your principle, not mine. Don't ask me to explain it; I   
   > doubt there is a logical explanation.   
      
   I'm asking you to explain how broccoli is like Jews, "Seneca".   
      
   It seems you are unable to.   
      
   --   
   Philip Mathews   
      
   "Mankind have a great aversion to intellectual labor; but even supposing   
   knowledge to be easily attainable, more people would be content to be   
   ignorant than would take even a little trouble to acquire it."   
      
   Samuel Johnson   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
|