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   From: roger@   
      
   In one age, called the Second Age by some,   
    (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)   
    someone claiming to be Seneca wrote   
    in message :   
      
      
   >"Roger" wrote in message   
   >news:ed2f69cf296e011664f173949df5385d@news.teranews.com...   
      
    [ . . . ]   
      
   >> >> >> >> >> > > Do they simply   
   >> >> >> >> >> > > like giving money to "rabbinical organizations"? Or do   
   >> >> >> >> >> > > they get something in return?   
      
   >> >> >> >> >> > Good questions. I would like to know too.   
      
   >> >> >> >> >> And would you like to know why businesses give money to   
   >> >> >> >> >> consultants, design firms, accountants, etc.,   
      
   >> >> >> >> >Oh. Rabbis serve these businesses in ways similar to those of   
   >> >> >> >> >consultants,   
   >> >> >> >> >design firms, accountants, etc.? You are saying, then, that   
   >> >> >> >> >rabbis and their   
   >> >> >> >> >organizations are just *employed* by these businesses as a sort   
   >> >> >> >> >of service   
   >> >> >> >> >provider, the service being one that the business deems   
   >> >> >> >> >essential? Procter &   
   >> >> >> >> >Gamble feel they dare not market Joy until they've made sure   
   >> >> >> >> >it's certified kosher?   
      
   >> >> >> >> "Dare not?"   
   >> >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> >> No.   
   >> >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> >> "Will be more profitable for them (by reaching an additional   
   >> >> >> >> market segment?)"   
   >> >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> >> Yes.   
   >> >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> >> But then, seneca also pretends that this has not been explained   
   >> >> >> >> many many times...   
      
   >> >> >> >It may have been for all I know; I've just returned to this NG   
   >> >> >> >after a long absence.   
      
   >> >> >> And you cannot remember the previous conversations you have run from   
   >> >> >> on this topic?   
      
   >> >> >On kosher tax? No, I cannot. I do remember the subject coming up (the   
   >> >> >kosher   
   >> >> >tax was news to me at the time), but I don't recall commenting on it.   
   >> >> >I may   
   >> >> >have, or not, but I certainly have not "run from" any such   
   >> >> >conversations.   
      
   >> >> And given that you do not remember the conversations which *did* take   
   >> >> place, your recollection of retreat cannot be afforded any credibility   
   >> >> either.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> You did.   
      
   >> >I may have. I presume whatever comments I made were germane, relevant and   
   >> >to the point.   
      
   >> No more so than you current bobbing and weaving.   
      
   >Actually, Susan has taken the trouble to provide the link. Here is my   
   >comment in its entirety:   
   >   
   >>>>   
   >Interesting and informative to say the least, Waldo. Thanks for this.   
   >   
   >Seneca   
   ><<<   
   >   
   >That's it. That's my part in your so-called "conversations which *did* take   
   >place," well over a year ago.   
      
   That's *one* conversation.   
      
   >Waldo supplied interesting information on the subject, as he has on many   
   >other subjects. I thanked him for it. Now where's the "bobbing and weaving,"   
   >genius? Where's the "retreat" I'm supposed to have a "recollection of"?   
      
   The bobbing and weaving is, for example, your attempts to use the lack   
   of other certifications as some sort of indictment of Kosher   
   certification. Until it was pointed out to you that other such exist.   
   In which case you wanted to know what the logo was. Then when I gave   
   you them, you complained that your inattention to this labeling   
   somehow still supported your original delusion.   
      
   >Doesn't your village idiot behavior embarrass you even a little? Good grief.   
   >You actually seem proud of it, as if you have raised stupidity to an art   
   >form.   
      
   Let's just put back what seneca is hoping no one noticed he ran from   
   shall we?   
      
       
      
   >> >> >> And yet the only ones you bother to talk about here are the ones   
   >> >> >> that you have distorted into casting a bad light on the Jews.   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> Funny, that.   
      
   >> >> >I'm posting to the alt.revisionism NG. What's funny about it?   
      
   >> >> That your Jew hatred does not have any impact on the historical facts   
   >> >> of the Holocaust, and simply acts as the reason for your mindless   
   >> >> denial of the same.   
      
   >> >Do Jewish researchers and scholars who question much of the Holocaust   
   >> >mythology also have "Jew hatred" in your opinion?   
      
   >> Your question is too vague: to which *specific* questions about the   
   >> historical facts (it's not myth, no matter how many times you post   
   >> that lie) of the Holocaust are you referring, and by whom?   
      
   >Gas chambers, for starters.   
      
   What *about* gas chambers?   
      
   >I really think it all begins and ends with gas chambers. That seems to be   
   >the cornerstone of the whole Holocaust mythology. That's the part that must   
   >be defended at all costs, lest the whole patchwork pile of bullshit come   
   >tumbling down.   
      
   And to which *specific* "myths" are you referring, and which Jewish   
   researchers are questioning them?   
      
    [ . . . ]   
      
   >> >> >> >> > What this *appears* to be is a device for squeezing money out   
   >> >> >> >> > of manufacturers for Jewish interests and causes, completely   
   >> >> >> >> > unrelated to the product.   
      
   >> >> >> >> Really! Now isn't that theory a surprise, coming from "Seneca"!   
   >> >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> >> All these gullible business people are unknowingly squeezed by   
   >> >> >> >> these Jews, and it takes someone like "Seneca" to figure it out.   
      
   >> >> >> >Who said "unknowingly"? I presume the people making those decisions   
   >> >> >> >are   
   >> >> >> >doing so consciously. What the reasons are, exactly, is what I'm   
   >> >> >> >curious about.   
      
   >> >> >> And are you also interested in the reasons why a particular ad   
   >> >> >> campaign is chosen, or a given landscaping company employed?   
      
   >> >> >I might be, if I frequented an advertising or landscaping newsgroup.   
   >> >> >But I don't.   
      
   >> >> Nor are you posting to exclusively newsgroups concerned with Kosher   
   >> >> (of which your stated ng is definitely not one.)   
      
   >> >I'm just replying. I don't change the message headers, so the replies go   
   >> >wherever they go.   
      
   >> And the ng you target is alt.rev, and discussions of kosher   
   >> certification are not on topic here,   
      
   >Sure they are. Did the kosher tax even *exist* before the so-called   
   >Holocaust?   
      
   No, which is part of why kosher certification has no effect on the   
   historical facts of the Holocaust.   
      
       
      
      
   >> except as they relate to your Jew   
   >> hatred, [ . . . ]   
      
   >I don't hate Jews (I think you've been told this a hundred times or so, but   
   >maybe it just slips your mind).   
      
   Yes, you've p[robably lied about it at *least* that many times.   
      
   >I do get pretty fed up with all the Holocaust bullshit.   
      
   Then stop spewing it, and acknowledge the historical facts of the   
   matter.   
      
   >If you want to accuse me of "Holocaust bullshit hatred,"   
   >I will not argue with you. How this magically translates into "Jew hatred"   
   >you have yet to explain.   
      
   It doesn't, so I feel no need to.   
      
   Your Holocaust denial is simply one manifestation of your   
   anti-semitism, nor is it the only one you demonstrate every time you   
   come crawling back.   
      
   This conversation a case in point.   
      
      
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